Mick Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Would a better manager instantly improve his physical attributes, so that he's not brushed off the ball with worrying ease? A better manager would make better use of the players at his disposal without having to change physical attribues but aye, let's go on as if that's the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think Anita's pretty good Me too, but I know what people mean about a player who could make more instant impact and be more physical etc. I think Anita may still come good though, at the end of the day he's a classy player. You've pretty much described Sissoko there yet three months down the line, he looks utterly ordinary. Pardew hasn't got the best out of a single player this season so I don't know why Anita should be any different, only he also has the excuse, unlike most, of never having played in this country before. Last thing we should be doing is criticizing individuals under this nugget, especially central midfielders, brought in under false pretences, told they'll play a passing game then when they get here told to chip it into Cisse and cross their fingers. In answer to Ronaldo's question at the top of the page, I'd suggest read this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think Anita's pretty good Me too, but I know what people mean about a player who could make more instant impact and be more physical etc. I think Anita may still come good though, at the end of the day he's a classy player. You've pretty much described Sissoko there yet three months down the line, he looks utterly ordinary. Pardew hasn't got the best out of a single player this season so I don't know why Anita should be any different, only he also has the excuse, unlike most, of never having played in this country before. Last thing we should be doing is criticizing individuals under this nugget, especially central midfielders, brought in under false pretences, told they'll play a passing game then when they get here told to chip it into Cisse and cross their fingers. sad thing about this bit is, do they even practice this in training, if they do, the fact is its executed so badly during games tells us the players really does not want to do it for this manager. At least not anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 With everyone fit would anyone start Anita? I still believe our best midfield 3 is Cabaye forward, Sissoko center, Anita behind. Though that's contingent upon us playing the ball through the midfield, on the ground (i.e. not gonna happen any time soon). As is, I'd play Cabaye/Sissoko/Jonas or Marveaux/Sissoko/Cabaye, depending upon the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anita is a quality footballer, but you can hardly expect him to flourish in a team that constantly bypasses him. He's a far better player than Tiote, can break up play and distribute but we don't have the coach to implement it. Like others have said he'd be immense at Swansea Spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anita is a quality footballer, but you can hardly expect him to flourish in a team that constantly bypasses him. He's a far better player than Tiote, can break up play and distribute but we don't have the coach to implement it. Like others have said he'd be immense at Swansea Would a better manager instantly improve his physical attributes, so that he's not brushed off the ball with worrying ease? A better manager would have the team moving the ball around much quicker so players wouldn't get closed down so regularly in the first place. Otherwise I doubt Lee Clark would have looked much of a player when Keegan had him playing the holding role early days in his first stint as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Once we get a decent manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Anita is a nothing type player like. Someone we don't need and arguably never will. That money should have been spent on a proper winger. That's not me saying the Dutchman is a poor player btw, I just think he's someone we have no real need for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think we can all agree that looking back on it considering the needs of Pardew that a Winger would have been a lot more wise than buying Anita. I do like Anita though, i was quite excited about signing him in the summer as i thought he would be an important player to improve our style of play..... I remember saying signing him would be quite important in terms of keeping the ball better and controlling games and genuinely believed it at the time. Also felt he would be the player who started all our attacks and would drop in behind Coloccini when he broke forward and a genuine push to controlling football matches and 4-3-3. Was genuinely deceived by all the soundbites Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think we can all agree that looking back on it considering the needs of Pardew that a Winger would have been a lot more wise than buying Anita. I do like Anita though, i was quite excited about signing him in the summer as i thought he would be an important player to improve our style of play..... I remember saying signing him would be quite important in terms of keeping the ball better and controlling games and genuinely believed it at the time. Also felt he would be the player who started all our attacks and would drop in behind Coloccini when he broke forward and a genuine push to controlling football matches and 4-3-3. Was genuinely deceived by all the soundbites any reason why that still couldn't happen as it's along the lines of what i've posted in the WBA match thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Wasn't Remy/Cisse/HBA the target for the front three? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Once we get a decent manager Think positive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think we can all agree that looking back on it considering the needs of Pardew that a Winger would have been a lot more wise than buying Anita. I do like Anita though, i was quite excited about signing him in the summer as i thought he would be an important player to improve our style of play..... I remember saying signing him would be quite important in terms of keeping the ball better and controlling games and genuinely believed it at the time. Also felt he would be the player who started all our attacks and would drop in behind Coloccini when he broke forward and a genuine push to controlling football matches and 4-3-3. Was genuinely deceived by all the soundbites any reason why that still couldn't happen as it's along the lines of what i've posted in the WBA match thread. I'd like to believe that i really would, but i just can't see it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think we can all agree that looking back on it considering the needs of Pardew that a Winger would have been a lot more wise than buying Anita. I do like Anita though, i was quite excited about signing him in the summer as i thought he would be an important player to improve our style of play..... I remember saying signing him would be quite important in terms of keeping the ball better and controlling games and genuinely believed it at the time. Also felt he would be the player who started all our attacks and would drop in behind Coloccini when he broke forward and a genuine push to controlling football matches and 4-3-3. Was genuinely deceived by all the soundbites any reason why that still couldn't happen as it's along the lines of what i've posted in the WBA match thread. I'd like to believe that i really would, but i just can't see it due to what you've seen as him as a player or do you just think the manager doesn't see it like that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I just feel the manager doesn't trust him, needs a tackle in there and i don't see that sort of midfield happening under Pardew. I know were saying similar things before West Brom away last season but still i can't see it. I would really like to see a midfield 3 of Anita, Sissoko and Cabaye and when i say that i mean an actual midfield 3 not 2 practically standing next to the CBs and Sissoko practically next to Cisse. But again i can't see Pardew doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I think Anita's pretty good Me too, but I know what people mean about a player who could make more instant impact and be more physical etc. I think Anita may still come good though, at the end of the day he's a classy player. You've pretty much described Sissoko there yet three months down the line, he looks utterly ordinary. Pardew hasn't got the best out of a single player this season so I don't know why Anita should be any different, only he also has the excuse, unlike most, of never having played in this country before. Last thing we should be doing is criticizing individuals under this nugget, especially central midfielders, brought in under false pretences, told they'll play a passing game then when they get here told to chip it into Cisse and cross their fingers. This. Our central midfielders probably have sore necks watching Krul's kicks sail over their heads as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Playing Anita would be fine if he had the kind of movement in front of him that he had at Ajax. Among a lot of other things, movement is something we lack shockingly above all else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like it or not, this is a physical league. Anita has struggled to adapt to this from day one, other than a decent spell when, ironically, he wasn't being played in his 'best' position. Quite how he's been granted a pardon, simply because of an under-performing manager, is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like it or not, this is a physical league. Anita has struggled to adapt to this from day one, other than a decent spell when, ironically, he wasn't being played in his 'best' position. Quite how he's been granted a pardon, simply because of an under-performing manager, is beyond me. Like it or not , this physical league has nothing to do with it, the way Pardew sets his team out Anita would struggle even in Eredivisie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like it or not, this is a physical league. Anita has struggled to adapt to this from day one, other than a decent spell when, ironically, he wasn't being played in his 'best' position. Quite how he's been granted a pardon, simply because of an under-performing manager, is beyond me. not really a pardon, i've only ever envisioned him in a middle 3 which hasn't really been given that chance yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Like it or not, this is a physical league. Anita has struggled to adapt to this from day one, other than a decent spell when, ironically, he wasn't being played in his 'best' position. Quite how he's been granted a pardon, simply because of an under-performing manager, is beyond me. This is all true but we still haven't played in a way that suits him from day 1 either. ( can say that for quite a lot of our players) No one has been granted a pardon, i just feel if we played closer to how these players are suited they would perform better no excuses it hasn't been good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not sure why we bought him tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 I still don't see what he's good enough at to start in a midfield 3. Marveaux's a far better footballer and Tiote's better at protecting the back 4, as rubbish as he's been recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not sure why we bought him tbh. I honestly thought it was for the left of the middle 3 i'd been twittering on about for ages. whewn we bought sissoko I thought he was for part of that 3 also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Not sure why we bought him tbh. Perhaps he was a "panic buy" as it was getting apparent that we weren't getting anywhere in our transfer dealings that summer. That's what crossed my mind after few games watching him anyway. (Although he has improved slightly since then and I'm still quite confident he could have a future here.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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