Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Newcastle insist that they want Ba to stay and have been attempting to get the Senegalese striker, who has 11 league goals already this season, to agree a new contract removing the clause. Can someone tell me why the hell we haven't offered him this new contract to remove the clause yet? It's one year since this story came out, we apparently risked to lose him (for a ridiculous amount of money) in the last January window as well as in the last summer window...and we're still trying to remove the bloody clause? Bollocks. Someone is not telling the truth, if this clause exists I can't believe that the issue hasn't been sorted out after one year, nor that nobody seriously came in for him knowing about this. His health is not good enough? Bah, football clubs use to risk much more than this, Abramovich splashed 50 millions on a player who had been consistently s*** for 2 years, I guess it wouldn't be too daring to spend 7 millions on a more than decent striker like Ba (especially if you're desperate, like Liverpool), even if his health is not guaranteed As far as we know the club has a policy of not renegotiating a deal until a player has been into his current deal for 18 months or so, (i think). But this is just stupid. Ok, I understand the policy and I know the reasons why it was decided so, but this is a particular case and the club risk to lose a lot of money here. It wouldn't be an exception to satisfy a greedy player's demands, it would be for the club's sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Jonas part-ex, goning to throw that one in there so Bimpy doesn't sleep tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I would love Remy here, I hope it happens and we have been linked with him for a while, if it did happen though no doubt atleast one of our big name players would depart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The clause is worth £5m to him, at least. How so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Newcastle insist that they want Ba to stay and have been attempting to get the Senegalese striker, who has 11 league goals already this season, to agree a new contract removing the clause. Can someone tell me why the hell we haven't offered him this new contract to remove the clause yet? It's one year since this story came out, we apparently risked to lose him (for a ridiculous amount of money) in the last January window as well as in the last summer window...and we're still trying to remove the bloody clause? Bollocks. Someone is not telling the truth, if this clause exists I can't believe that the issue hasn't been sorted out after one year, nor that nobody seriously came in for him knowing about this. His health is not good enough? Bah, football clubs use to risk much more than this, Abramovich splashed 50 millions on a player who had been consistently s*** for 2 years, I guess it wouldn't be too daring to spend 7 millions on a more than decent striker like Ba (especially if you're desperate, like Liverpool), even if his health is not guaranteed As far as we know the club has a policy of not renegotiating a deal until a player has been into his current deal for 18 months or so, (i think). But this is just stupid. Ok, I understand the policy and I know the reasons why it was decided so, but this is a particular case and the club risk to lose a lot of money here. It wouldn't be an exception to satisfy a greedy player's demands, it would be for the club's sake. Well yes but i actually dont mind the stance the club takes over not going mental with the wages. He clause was probably something he insisted on when he joined as he was on a free. Didn't do the club any harm either as he had the issues with his knee. Turned out his knee seems fine and his a very good player. We could lose out on money with him but as is being picked up on by quite a few on here, he is rather looking like a bit of a player who goes where the money is. If he is as selfish as it starting to appear then i can stomach losing him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.footmarseille.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=9701753#p9701753 Well based on what he has shown in the last 6 months, 10 million would be like hitting the jackpot. Sounds like our kind of deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 He's an ideal replacement for Ba if he leaves. I'd even go as far as saying a front three with him on the left would potentially be an improvement on a front three with a square peg, in Cisse, shoved in a round hole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The clause is worth £5m to him, at least. How so? He apparently gets half of £7.5m, plus he will get a big signing fee off the buying club due to the clause keeping his value artificially low. Bit like when a player has a contract expired, just means the buying club pays a fee directly to the player instead of a club. Who offers the most wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.footmarseille.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=9701753#p9701753 Well based on what he has shown in the last 6 months, 10 million would be like hitting the jackpot. Sounds like our kind of deal. Would it not be £10m minus whatever the exchanged player is worth ? Maybe £7M then ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Love how everyone's just expecting Pardew to favour the mythical formation he hasn't gone back to all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.footmarseille.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=9701753#p9701753 Well based on what he has shown in the last 6 months, 10 million would be like hitting the jackpot. Sounds like our kind of deal. Would it not be £10m minus whatever the exchanged player is worth ? Maybe £7M then ?. The Ba fee fits like a glove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Love how everyone's just expecting Pardew to revert to the mythical formation he hasn't gone back to all season. Fair comment, he might not revert to it just yet. But at least he's buying a player who would fit very well in that set up in case he decides to switch to it finally. Or should his successor be clever enough to realize it's the best we can do with the type of players we have. #potentialsilverlining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 http://www.footmarseille.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=9701753#p9701753 Well based on what he has shown in the last 6 months, 10 million would be like hitting the jackpot. Sounds like our kind of deal. Would it not be £10m minus whatever the exchanged player is worth ? Maybe £7M then ?. The Ba fee fits like a glove. Spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Love how everyone's just expecting Pardew to favour the mythical formation he hasn't gone back to all season. Im hoping Pardew has been trying to keep BA happy enough to sign the deal. If that's not the reason for the 442 then were fucked anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Love how everyone's just expecting Pardew to favour the mythical formation he hasn't gone back to all season. We played 4-3-3 against Wigan according to a few folk on here. Then it changed to 4-2-3-1 when we lost the games after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So we might be bringing in 1 player and seeing 2 leave? That makes sense when we're complaining about having so many injuries and so many games. Only at Newcastle, also, doesn't Remy have a suspect heart condition? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Wasn't that Diame? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ItalianMagpie Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The clause is worth £5m to him, at least. How so? He apparently gets half of £7.5m, plus he will get a big signing fee off the buying club due to the clause keeping his value artificially low. Bit like when a player has a contract expired, just means the buying club pays a fee directly to the player instead of a club. Who offers the most wins. So that's what the part I was missing. He will never sign then, with this money and the money he'd get somewhere else on the line it would be too bad of a deal for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Reasonably reputable source... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The clause is worth £5m to him, at least. How so? He apparently gets half of £7.5m, plus he will get a big signing fee off the buying club due to the clause keeping his value artificially low. Bit like when a player has a contract expired, just means the buying club pays a fee directly to the player instead of a club. Who offers the most wins. So that's what the part I was missing. He will never sign then, with this money and the money he'd get somewhere else on the line it would be too bad of a deal for him. Afraid so, he holds all the aces ATM, can't see him throwing his hand in when he's got some great offers coming his way. Ironically a knee injury is our only saviour, would all but finish the interest of every club bar QPR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Wasn't that Diame? It doesn't seem to be a problem. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1305728/Loic-Remy-cleared-play-despite-heart-defect-ending-Premier-League-hopes.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Remy would be a class signing but not if it means losing Marveaux and probably Ba. Pace would be nice though, I was starting to think it was a myth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Hmm interesting, the Telegraph isn't normally one to randomly make up shit but as usual treat it as false until proven otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Good news finally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I can easily see Pardew playing both Cisse and Remy in a front 2 unfortunately. Remy has been so hit and miss the last 2 seasons, not guaranteed whatever problems he has will rapidly evaporate with a move to Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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