Loïc Remy

[The College Dropout]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

No, you've been priced out and you move on. I cna only guess but the difference seems significant. They've reportedly offered 80k and us 40-60k.

 

 

It's just business. You want a product/service that can only be given to 1 firm. We've been out-bid. He's not in the wrong, we've only done wrong by waiting so long to make the move and QPR have done what they have to do to get their man that they believe will keep them up and propel them into midtable at least next season.

[ponsaelius]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

Nothing we can do. We have to stick to our wage structure, but that doesn't mean fernandes and qpr are monkeys like some are trying to say...

 

If they're so clever then how are they sitting bottom of the league in the first place? Fernandes appointed the last manager and along with that manager bought most of the current squad, handing out massive wages to players and agents in the process - which has them sitting bottom and needing to gamble to stay up.

 

Compared to say... the owners of Norwich or Swansea, they have been made to look like total mugs.

[Parky]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

 

Fernandes corporate nous and structure is on another planet to Mashley..That is abundantly clear to anyone who looks at it for 2 mins. Football isn't an exact science but I know who I'd rather own our club. Mashley is a poor communicator - Fernandes by all accounts is loved top to bottom in his companies and ventures. He's an economist and astute model builder for business longevity and structural financial development. It's like comparing a monkey with a typwriter and an IBM.

[ChrisJbarnes]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

I think you're both arguing the same thing.

 

Posssibly

 

I am just super wary now, after our recent experience, of getting lumbered with high earning, uncommitted players, of the wrong age group.

 

I'd also say that there are only two factors which could possibly swing him to them rather than you, one is London, which you can't change, the other is ££££ which you can change, but there have to be limits.

 

Mind you, lucky you lot even trying to get these signings in. I dread to think of the sort of dross at the end of the market we'll be shopping in.

 

31st Jan there will be a "SENSATIONAL" battle between Newcastle and Aston Villa over the blow your socks off signings of Dean Windass and Lee Trundle

[The College Dropout]

I don't think QPR will get relegated tbf.b With our without Remy 'Arry would turn it around. They're only 4-5 points from safety as it is, the team doesn't lack quality but it does lack some heart but 'Arrys great at getting players to well.... play.

 

They'll implode eventually with their signings. Wages are crippling. They're signing players on fees they cannot get elsewhere. Ever.

[Parky]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

Nothing we can do. We have to stick to our wage structure, but that doesn't mean fernandes and qpr are monkeys like some are trying to say...

 

If they're so clever then how are they sitting bottom of the league in the first place? Fernandes appointed the last manager and along with that manager bought most of the current squad, handing out massive wages to players and agents in the process - which has them sitting bottom and needing to gamble to stay up.

 

Compared to say... the owners of Norwich or Swansea, they have been made to look like total mugs.

 

He also fired the last manager very quickly. He is new to the game and still learning...How long has Ashley been in the game?

[arnonel]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

 

Fernandes corporate nous and structure is on another planet to Mashley..That is abundantly clear to anyone who looks at it for 2 mins. Football isn't an exact science but I know who I'd rather own our club. Mashley is a poor communicator - Fernandes by all accounts is loved top to bottom in his companies and ventures. He's an economist and astute model builder for business longevity and structural financial development. It's like comparing a monkey with a typwriter and an IBM.

 

Great point. Wish we had Bill Gates running the club, he built Microsoft from his garage, so would be great running a football club

[The College Dropout]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

 

Fernandes corporate nous and structure is on another planet to Mashley..That is abundantly clear to anyone who looks at it for 2 mins. Football isn't an exact science but I know who I'd rather own our club. Mashley is a poor communicator - Fernandes by all accounts is loved top to bottom in his companies and ventures. He's an economist and astute model builder for business longevity and structural financial development. It's like comparing a monkey with a typwriter and an IBM.

 

Tbf Ashley's worth more than Fernandes. on that basis alone, he's a better businessman.

[Parky]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

 

Fernandes corporate nous and structure is on another planet to Mashley..That is abundantly clear to anyone who looks at it for 2 mins. Football isn't an exact science but I know who I'd rather own our club. Mashley is a poor communicator - Fernandes by all accounts is loved top to bottom in his companies and ventures. He's an economist and astute model builder for business longevity and structural financial development. It's like comparing a monkey with a typwriter and an IBM.

 

Great point. Wish we had Bill Gates running the club, he built Microsoft from his garage, so would be great running a football club

 

 

I repeat if Qpr get the 2 french players I'd bet on them staying up...

[AyeDubbleYoo]

What Fernandes has realised is that it's possible to buy success if you just risk enough money. The problem is that they've bought the wrong players so far. If they stay up they will get it right eventually, money talks.

[Parky]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

By this logic, we have Ashley, who also built a massive empire from very little. So because he is the 15th wealthiest in the UK, he must know what he is doing running a football club, right?

 

Fernandes corporate nous and structure is on another planet to Mashley..That is abundantly clear to anyone who looks at it for 2 mins. Football isn't an exact science but I know who I'd rather own our club. Mashley is a poor communicator - Fernandes by all accounts is loved top to bottom in his companies and ventures. He's an economist and astute model builder for business longevity and structural financial development. It's like comparing a monkey with a typwriter and an IBM.

 

Tbf Ashley's worth more than Fernandes. on that basis alone, he's a better businessman.

 

Yeah but one of them qenuinely is excited about being in football. I wonder who?

[Hughesy]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

 

You know fuk all about him. He was one of the brains at Aol and left when he saw the writing on the wall. He started Air Asia from scratch in one room with no airline licence. If qpr survive in the PL a couple of season they will be a force to be reckoned with.

 

How is that any different from Ashley taking voer his dad's shop and becoming a billionaire?

 

Fernandes is worth quite a lot less than Ashley.  USD 400 million to £1.5 billion.

[brummie]

QPR are the most insanely, short termist run side in the league. If they go down, they'll more than likely implode.

 

The problems provincial sides, ones who can't offer constant CL football, face is that we're not in London, and London is one of the best cities on earth. That's one factor which will swing players (and their wives), there probably aren't many better places to be than London for a youmg multi-millionaire.

 

If Remy has been swung by the insane £££ that QPR have offered, then, frankly, you're better off without him. It's at the very least an indication of what his commitment would be like.

 

He's 27 not 23. His type of player - pace and athelticism tend to decline quickly as they approach their 30's. He needs the money now.

 

So what do you do? Bend to his demands?

 

What's the difference in what you were offering and what they did?

 

You could equally say that if he's that type of player, he needs the money because he's going to decline, as you said, which doubly makes him one to avoid, especially at that cost.

 

Nothing we can do. We have to stick to our wage structure, but that doesn't mean fernandes and qpr are monkeys like some are trying to say...

 

There's a good amount of evidence to suggest they are, though, isn't there?

 

Look at the players that club has bought over the last year or so, and the money they will be on. Utterly unsustainable.

 

Fernandes might not be as bad as previous Portsmouth owners, but they were so bad, there's plenty of scope to not be, and still fuck things up royally.

[Benwell Lad]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

 

A deal comprising a ten million plus euro transfer fee plus the players/agents contract and fees, for what would be four months work if, as the bookmakers think they will go down, would seriously contradict what you said about Fernandez a couple of posts ago.

There will be a release clause but a free would be pure mental.

But hey, if he's the golden nugget that's going to keep them up, well done QPR.

 

To put it bluntly if they get the 2 french players and with Harry at it...Their chance of survival just became better than ours at this moment. IF we don't perform in this window we'll go down.

 

A different point but sure, based on those suppositions you may be correct.

But the point was a "free" after four months is hardly the work of a genius or "Branson" like businessman.

There again I don't think it will be a "free" and if Remy inspires them to stay up it could be the work of a genius.

[Parky]

What Fernandes has realised is that it's possible to buy success if you just risk enough money. The problem is that they've bought the wrong players so far. If they stay up they will get it right eventually, money talks.

 

That's about right.

[Dave]

Abumingmong says he won't leave this window and will probably go in the summer.

 

There's our excuse.

[Parky]

Can only think that QPR have protected themselves against relegation with a load of release clauses etc. If they haven't then their policy is genuinely suicidal.

 

When you're bottom of the league you have no choice but to gamble. He'll be on a free if they go down.

 

A deal comprising a ten million plus euro transfer fee plus the players/agents contract and fees, for what would be four months work if, as the bookmakers think they will go down, would seriously contradict what you said about Fernandez a couple of posts ago.

There will be a release clause but a free would be pure mental.

But hey, if he's the golden nugget that's going to keep them up, well done QPR.

 

To put it bluntly if they get the 2 french players and with Harry at it...Their chance of survival just became better than ours at this moment. IF we don't perform in this window we'll go down.

 

A different point but sure, based on those suppositions you may be correct.

But the point was a "free" after four months is hardly the work of a genius or "Branson" like businessman.

There again I don't think it will be a "free" and if Remy inspires them to stay up it could be the work of a genius.

 

It doesn't fuking matter. They HAVE to gamble.

[The College Dropout]

What Fernandes has realised is that it's possible to buy success if you just risk enough money. The problem is that they've bought the wrong players so far. If they stay up they will get it right eventually, money talks.

 

fernandes doesn't have THAT much money. He won't support them in 5 years time. They have to be in the CL with the wages they have within a few years.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

What Fernandes has realised is that it's possible to buy success if you just risk enough money. The problem is that they've bought the wrong players so far. If they stay up they will get it right eventually, money talks.

 

fernandes doesn't have THAT much money. He won't support them in 5 years time. They have to be in the CL with the wages they have within a few years.

 

Ah right, I assumed his ability to spend on QPR was pretty much unlimited. If he needs a return any time soon he's running a massive risk.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Abumingmong says he won't leave this window and will probably go in the summer.

 

There's our excuse.

 

I'm sure we'd rather have the player.

[The College Dropout]

They would stay up Remy or no Remy. 'Arry just loves to spend money and sign players. I'm sure he's told the board otherwise.

[AlanSkÃrare]

Abumingmong says he won't leave this window and will probably go in the summer.

 

There's our excuse.

 

That's what worries me. We won't be able to get someone to improve us in.

[Guest neesy111]

They want to build a new stadium and they will get a lot of corporate sponsors from Asia. Fernandes is a smart guy. He's not a guy who lucked or was born into money. He has business sense. He's investing now and hopes that it'll pay off later. The sustainability of the club will depend on their revenue but he already has a plan for increasing their revenue. That's much more than Portsmouth ever had. Whether he's successful is another matter but they're certainly not a Portsmouth who had owners who spent beyond their capabilities.

 

Yes they are.

 

Portsmouth had a new stadium in the pipeline.

 

Portsmouth actively were looking for extra sponsors and thought buying success now would buy them guaranteed future which was completely wrong.

 

They still went he same way as Leeds.

 

Which QPR will do when they get relegated.

 

Fernandez is way smarter than anyone who was ever connected to Pompey.

 

History is littered with the still smouldering corpses of clever, rich men who went into football club ownership and still got burned.

 

Fernandes has more brains than the whole of our management put together. More so he is an inspirational character like a Branson.

 

He really isn't.

[Hughesy]

What Fernandes has realised is that it's possible to buy success if you just risk enough money. The problem is that they've bought the wrong players so far. If they stay up they will get it right eventually, money talks.

 

fernandes doesn't have THAT much money. He won't support them in 5 years time. They have to be in the CL with the wages they have within a few years.

 

Exactly - he'll have spent his entire net worth within a year or two at this rate.  Can't see them getting much debt from banks.  It is a disaster waiting to happen.

[Big Geordie]

Just back in from work - disappointing news, but I would say that if he is only interested in money then fuck him. Move on to another target and get him in pronto.