Brighton 2 - 0 Newcastle United - 05/01/13 - post-match reaction from page 45

[Interpolic]

Yet another complete waste of time and money. The only thing more infuriating that us throwing the game is that we didn't look that much different to most other weeks while doing it.

 

I wish I'd never gone, personally.  Just found the whole experience completely depressing.

[ponsaelius]

Yet another complete waste of time and money. The only thing more infuriating that us throwing the game is that we didn't look that much different to most other weeks while doing it.

 

I wish I'd never gone, personally.  Just found the whole experience completely depressing.

 

I'm going to Norwich next week.

 

Going with 3 mates I haven't seen in years though, so looking forward to it. The match is almost an afterthought, depressing.

[Jack Flash]

I'm going to Norwich as well £45

 

Today felt like the first time this season the away fans weren't with the team/manager which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on your view point.

[Interpolic]

I went to Norwich last year, it was a fun away trip apart from the football.  Have a good one, chaps.

[Interpolic]

I'm going to Norwich as well £45

 

Today felt like the first time this season the away fans weren't with the team/manager which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on your view point.

 

I just think it was a really weird away following, not all on the same page at all.

 

I was less annoyed by the hundreds of people who didn't seem to sing once than I was the self-appointed superfans who quickly resorted to homophobic chants once they got annoyed at the game, and I even heard a "We've got an end full of cockneys" at one point.  As I say, it was a depressing experience all round.

[Dave]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2257740/Alan-Pardew-blames-injury-problems-Newcastle-defeat.html

Pardew admitted his club are in a crisis. 'We had youngsters playing today who should be in the development side,' he said.

 

'We are missing too many of our top players and we need them back and quickly.

 

'Fabricio Coloccini and Papiss Cisse picked up minor injuries midweek and I couldn't risk losing them for some important Premier League games looming. In the situation we're in, the most important thing is our Premier League status.

 

'The truth is I've not put out our best team in a single game this season.' Goals from Andrea Orlandi and Will Hoskins saw off Newcastle, who were not helped by a second-half red card for Shola Ameobi's two bookable offences.

 

The Newcastle captain received a first yellow for a late dig at Adam El-Abd and a second for catching David Lopez, although the Spaniard made the most of the challenge.

 

'It didn't help us having to play with 10 men and I don't think the player helped us either,' Pardew said.

 

'He looked up at the referee and started rolling around. It was disappointing to see a fellow professional do that.' Pardew has not been past the third round in three years at Newcastle. As he headed back to the North- East, he expressed his sadness at this latest loss.

 

'I love this competition,' he said. 'There can't be an English manager who loves this competition more.'

[Shayno]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2257740/Alan-Pardew-blames-injury-problems-Newcastle-defeat.html

Pardew admitted his club are in a crisis. 'We had youngsters playing today who should be in the development side,' he said.

 

'We are missing too many of our top players and we need them back and quickly.

 

'Fabricio Coloccini and Papiss Cisse picked up minor injuries midweek and I couldn't risk losing them for some important Premier League games looming. In the situation we're in, the most important thing is our Premier League status.

 

'The truth is I've not put out our best team in a single game this season.' Goals from Andrea Orlandi and Will Hoskins saw off Newcastle, who were not helped by a second-half red card for Shola Ameobi's two bookable offences.

 

The Newcastle captain received a first yellow for a late dig at Adam El-Abd and a second for catching David Lopez, although the Spaniard made the most of the challenge.

 

'It didn't help us having to play with 10 men and I don't think the player helped us either,' Pardew said.

 

'He looked up at the referee and started rolling around. It was disappointing to see a fellow professional do that.' Pardew has not been past the third round in three years at Newcastle. As he headed back to the North- East, he expressed his sadness at this latest loss.

 

'I love this competition,' he said. 'There can't be an English manager who loves this competition more.'

 

As someone who worked for and wrote speeches for a politician I still have a lot to learn from this guy.

[ponsaelius]

More shit research mind, since we made 4th round last year.

[Interpolic]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2257740/Alan-Pardew-blames-injury-problems-Newcastle-defeat.html

'I love this competition,' he said. 'There can't be an English manager who loves this competition more.'

 

:lol:

[Miercoles]

Who wants an FA Cup run anyway?

 

 

I'd just like to see us win a fucking trophy before I die, and we've got a way better shot at the FA Cup than we do at winning the league title any time soon.

[loki679]

Who wants an FA Cup run anyway?

 

 

I'd just like to see us win a f***ing trophy before I die, and we've got a way better shot at the FA Cup than we do at winning the league title any time soon.

 

This.  Very much this.  Let's enter the Johnstones Paint Trophy next season just to get something in the cabinet that isn't in black and white.

[Guest]

Pardew's approach to cup games sickens me, especially this season when he moans about the Europa League, a competition we all dreamed of being in following our relegation. Cup games, especially the domestic cups, are part of the season, they're competitive games and should be just as serious as league games, arguably more so for us given how long it's been since Newcastle won a domestic cup. If we need to be put out of the FA Cup to help our league form then it shows just what a shambles Pardew has made this team become.

 

Remember the fury when Robson's team went out to Wolves? Too many people happy to just meekly exit every competition at the first hurdle these days, lets him get away with it.

We played a full strength squad that day.

 

What the f*** has that got to do with supporter attitudes?

 

Really? I remember people like Robert & Acuna getting fucking hammered after that game...even Bellamy for pointing at the Premier League badge on the way off at the Wolves fans. Can't remember that being accepted whatsoever.

[Doug]

As soon as I saw the team sheet I took the dog for a walk over the fields for a couple of hours to avoid the impending dissapointment.

Ashley needs to seriously fuck off and leave us alone now.

[durhamunigeordie]

Was like a pre-season game, up until they scored at least. Was essentially two Championship level sides going at it, with a couple of exceptions, one of whom is Santon who has been woeful recently.

[Chrisjraby]

Williamson's positioning for the second goal 

[Guest bimpy474]

Williamson's positioning for the second goal 

 

Sunday park offside attempt, Just embarrassing really.

[wyn davies]

well we were lucky nearly ended up with Swansea or Arsenal, oh well Brighton won't be going any further, suppose the only desperate consolation we have.

[Guest koye]

Travelled all the way from Oslo to watch this footballing disaster. Not easy to get tickets for away games without a season ticket, but this one went to members and I booked my ticket. Probably not the best choice I´vé taken 

 

There´s two things that really makes me angry about this game.

1. No heart. Young players should be desperate to show their abilities in games like this. Experienced players should take responsiblity on the pitch, lead by example and help the younger players. There was just no desire yesterday. I think Bigirimana stepped up and did okay, but that´s all. He was also the only player who looked upset about things after the final whistle.

 

2. Pardew. His tactics yesterday was just nothing, like it´s been for most games this season. The one thing that was very easy to spot was how we reacted to how Brighton tried to keep the ball in their own third before they picked out the right pass. Their GK and defenders played quite risky at the back, and we had to press high up the pitch for large parts of the game. The problem was, we failed to press high properly on almost every attempt. The thing we did was pushing three-four players up the pitch and that always left huge gaps in midfield. An easy pass over the top of Ameobi, Ranger etc. - and they suddenly had 40-50 meters of space to run into before any Newcastle player tried to close them down. This is basic for a coach/manager etc. I can´t believe how Pardew could not spot all this. It´s pretty easy to instruct players to press high - the worst thing you do is what we did, to press high with two, three or four players . It´s Pardews job to prepare the players for situations like this and to make sure we can handle different types of teams. A good manager prepare his team to handle all types of tactics and plays to their weaknesses. A good manager also makes changes during the game that his players benefit from. Sadly this isn´t a case at Newcastle. I think the last time we came from behind to win a PL game was West Ham away in 2010, and that was under Chris Hughton. Time is running out Pardew....

[alexf]

Williamson's positioning for the second goal 

 

Yeah i forgot to comment on that yesterday. I was lost for words at how bad it was. Sooner he is out the team the better.

[midds]

Williamson's positioning for the second goal 

 

Yeah i forgot to comment on that yesterday. I was lost for words at how bad it was. Sooner he is out the team the better.

 

Him playing atm is benefiting absolutely no-one. He looks like a nervous wreck and is shipping goals hand over fist. His very presence in the back 4 is unsettling to his team-mates and the crowd and he contributes zero at the other end.

 

I'd honestly be tempted to throw Streete or Good in there to give everyone a break.

[Cronky]

Travelled all the way from Oslo to watch this footballing disaster. Not easy to get tickets for away games without a season ticket, but this one went to members and I booked my ticket. Probably not the best choice I´vé taken 

 

There´s two things that really makes me angry about this game.

1. No heart. Young players should be desperate to show their abilities in games like this. Experienced players should take responsiblity on the pitch, lead by example and help the younger players. There was just no desire yesterday. I think Bigirimana stepped up and did okay, but that´s all. He was also the only player who looked upset about things after the final whistle.

 

2. Pardew. His tactics yesterday was just nothing, like it´s been for most games this season. The one thing that was very easy to spot was how we reacted to how Brighton tried to keep the ball in their own third before they picked out the right pass. Their GK and defenders played quite risky at the back, and we had to press high up the pitch for large parts of the game. The problem was, we failed to press high properly on almost every attempt. The thing we did was pushing three-four players up the pitch and that always left huge gaps in midfield. An easy pass over the top of Ameobi, Ranger etc. - and they suddenly had 40-50 meters of space to run into before any Newcastle player tried to close them down. This is basic for a coach/manager etc. I can´t believe how Pardew could not spot all this. It´s pretty easy to instruct players to press high - the worst thing you do is what we did, to press high with two, three or four players . It´s Pardews job to prepare the players for situations like this and to make sure we can handle different types of teams. A good manager prepare his team to handle all types of tactics and plays to their weaknesses. A good manager also makes changes during the game that his players benefit from. Sadly this isn´t a case at Newcastle. I think the last time we came from behind to win a PL game was West Ham away in 2010, and that was under Chris Hughton. Time is running out Pardew....

 

I'd agree on point two. The whole team has to be prepared to press or its pointless. Our pressing game looks very half-hearted.

 

We may be getting caught between two stools. Last year we concentrated more on just getting men behind the ball.

[dinotheprehistoricgeordie]

To be fair from what I remember it was Dummet playing the striker onside for their second goal.

[jimmymag]

Travelled all the way from Oslo to watch this footballing disaster. Not easy to get tickets for away games without a season ticket, but this one went to members and I booked my ticket. Probably not the best choice I´vé taken 

 

There´s two things that really makes me angry about this game.

1. No heart. Young players should be desperate to show their abilities in games like this. Experienced players should take responsiblity on the pitch, lead by example and help the younger players. There was just no desire yesterday. I think Bigirimana stepped up and did okay, but that´s all. He was also the only player who looked upset about things after the final whistle.

 

2. Pardew. His tactics yesterday was just nothing, like it´s been for most games this season. The one thing that was very easy to spot was how we reacted to how Brighton tried to keep the ball in their own third before they picked out the right pass. Their GK and defenders played quite risky at the back, and we had to press high up the pitch for large parts of the game. The problem was, we failed to press high properly on almost every attempt. The thing we did was pushing three-four players up the pitch and that always left huge gaps in midfield. An easy pass over the top of Ameobi, Ranger etc. - and they suddenly had 40-50 meters of space to run into before any Newcastle player tried to close them down. This is basic for a coach/manager etc. I can´t believe how Pardew could not spot all this. It´s pretty easy to instruct players to press high - the worst thing you do is what we did, to press high with two, three or four players . It´s Pardews job to prepare the players for situations like this and to make sure we can handle different types of teams. A good manager prepare his team to handle all types of tactics and plays to their weaknesses. A good manager also makes changes during the game that his players benefit from. Sadly this isn´t a case at Newcastle. I think the last time we came from behind to win a PL game was West Ham away in 2010, and that was under Chris Hughton. Time is running out Pardew....

 

Total respect to yourself and all of the fans who made the journey to the South Coast to support the lads yesterday.

 

You've hit the nail on the head when highlighting the lack of heart and the piss poor tactics of the manager. If that lot had one tenth of the heart, desire and passion of the thousands of fans that made the journey we would have got a result yesterday, and wouldn't be in the shite we are in the league.

 

Much as I hate to quote Ferguson, I have to agree that "If Newcastle's achievements had matched the support of the people who pay to watch them play, the club would be among the game's giants."

 

I don't think we are ever going to be able to match the passion of the players to that of the fans, unless we can get more Geordies in the side, and that's why I'd love to get Andy Carroll back, and we need Steven Taylor back in the side.

 

 

[Mr. Snrub]

Fuck all to do with passion, it's the lack of squad depth and a tactically inept manager which is why we're currently shit.

[Mole_Toonfan]

f*** all to do with passion, it's the lack of squad depth and a tactically inept manager which is why we're currently s***.