dilligaf Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As has been said the amount of money some have makes winning the league virtually impossible, so I would say consistent top 6, win a cup, and actually enjoy watching us week in week out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Interesting question BTW, better than bickering about the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be fucking alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be fucking alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. Do you not accept it though? FWIW I agree it's sad, but the problem is with the league not us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be f***ing alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. I honestly think that if you spend wisely.. And get a good footballing style to boot, you can compete with man utd etc I mean arsenal could compete if they actually sorted their defence out and actually bought a striker who suited their style.. Not 6ft + immobile sky scrapers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. This. Regular top 7/8 finishes, turn up in a Cup competition. Certainly this for the foreseeable future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Win something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 League stabilty and a real actual effort in the cup competitions we can realistically win. for a club our size turnover, crowds, 6m worldwide fan base, a league cup would be met like some sort of momentous achievement. Its hardly unrealistic. tbh the ownwership and players who weve had here should know- they've run the biggest failure of a football club in the world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be f***ing alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. I honestly think that if you spend wisely.. And get a good footballing style to boot, you can compete with man utd etc I mean arsenal could compete if they actually sorted their defence out and actually bought a striker who suited their style.. Not 6ft + immobile sky scrapers. It probably could be done. You'd have to use your resources super efficiently, get quite lucky (with injuries and the like) and withstand the inevitable media/refereeing corruption that SAF would try to bring down around you as he took your threat more seriously It would be glorious if a real club could ever win the Premiership again without having to get a sugar daddy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be fucking alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. Do you not accept it though? FWIW I agree it's sad, but the problem is with the league not us. Not long-term I don't, which is what the question is. Might as well not bother. Surely the whole point of football is to try and win stuff? Especially the domestic league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Entertaining football and actually trying to win a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Entertaining football and actually trying to win a cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. this. strong enough squad to stay in top 8 also in "bad" seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The financial side of football just feels like a massive bubble waiting to bust and if that happens then we could benefit but until then I can't really see us doing much when the people in charge keep appointing their friends as managers and only make important signings sporadically. I often wonder where we'd be with a chairman who backs his manager in the way other clubs do. Impossible to gauge really. Any examples in mind? Martin O'Neill at Sunderland for example. He's had loads of money and seems to buy "his" players. Even today he's putting a bid in for an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The concept of being a part of 20 team league and having no ambition to win it should be fucking alien. Cannot believe how readily accepted it is, although I do understand it. Horrendous. Thought there'd be more dafties like me kicking around. Do you not accept it though? FWIW I agree it's sad, but the problem is with the league not us. Not long-term I don't, which is what the question is. Might as well not bother. Surely the whole point of football is to try and win stuff? Especially the domestic league. Course it's the point, but the current situation in the league makes it virtually impossible. Whether or not people will start to think of football as pointless remains to be seen. For me, it just about offers enough on a weekly basis to help me forgot how futile the bigger picture is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Now I've heard it all. We should be following the "mackem model". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Regularly compete for European places and try to win a cup. this. strong enough squad to stay in top 8 also in "bad" seasons. and in the process focus on developing an attractive style which we use throughout the ranks in order to buy and develop the right players for the system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The removal of Mike Ashley, his shitty SD branding and the dicks he has running us DL and AP. Then we can get back to being a football club again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Now I've heard it all. We should be following the "mackem model". Not sure they invented giving a manager money to spend on his players. But then you knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The removal of Mike Ashley, his shitty SD branding and the dicks he has running us DL and AP. Then we can get back to being a football club again. Awful answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The removal of Mike Ashley, his shitty SD branding and the dicks he has running us DL and AP. Then we can get back to being a football club again. Awful answer. I liked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The removal of Mike Ashley, his shitty SD branding and the dicks he has running us DL and AP. Then we can get back to being a football club again. Awful answer. I liked it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Biggest success long-term would be challenging for CL spot while playing attractive football. At the moment though, success is managing to score mroe goals than conceding at least once... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 If we are to follow a "model", Swansea are the sort of the model we should be following if we aren't going to spend a lot on players, they have a fairly attractive style that allows them to compete, especially in one off games and make best use of the players they do have, I mean brittan played in the conference did he not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Biggest success long-term would be challenging for CL spot while playing attractive football. At the moment though, success is managing to score mroe goals than conceding at least once... seriously tho- who would give a fuck about champions league place if we WON the europa instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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