Dr Venkman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thought Colo was class today apart from the second goal. got to disagree, colo hasn't looked class since sunderland away. Needs to be phased out once we're looking safe, hopefully after the next 4/5 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Made a lot of vital blocks and challenges today. Don't buy he was generally poor. Just made one fairly standard mistake and one really stupid one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Made a lot of vital blocks and challenges today. Don't buy he was generally poor. Just made one fairly standard mistake and one really stupid one. i wouldnt say vital blocks, just had a bog standard centre half game, on the good side. on the bad side cost us a couple of goals imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He wont be phased out man. He's our captain, Pardew will try to convince him to stay in the summer (and fail, imo), Taylor is always injured and MYM, although looking mint, is still untested in England. It can't see it happening. Colo has been out of form and made a mistake today and did against Stoke as well at the very least, but I still think he has a lot to give and he's still good enough for it to not become a major gripe for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 This guy is starting our next game right........right!? Can't wait to see him play and settle in, think he's going to be a beast for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I forget we've signed him some times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I've been a big Colo supporter and Taylor critic in the past but Taylor's more worthy of the shirt these days. Be very stupid to drop him. You've been a massive Pardew supporter too to be fair, 'naldo. Not that I don't think Taylor has played well like, he's just not on the same level as Coloccini. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Dropping Coloccini over Taylor, seriously. Ner. We need to put an end to this patter like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 All I've said is that Colo needs to be gradually phased out when we're safe, and that Taylor shouldn't be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He will get his chance. He has been signed for the long term, so he just needs to patient for a short while. Lets face it, Saylor will get injured at some point & Colo is most probably away in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He wont be phased out man. He's our captain, Pardew will try to convince him to stay in the summer (and fail, imo), Taylor is always injured and MYM, although looking mint, is still untested in England. It can't see it happening. Colo has been out of form and made a mistake today and did against Stoke as well at the very least, but I still think he has a lot to give and he's still good enough for it to not become a major gripe for us. Should be phased out, probably won't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thought Colo was class today apart from the second goal. What about the first? Silly but that stuff happens all the time. The second was a real let down though. The first goal conceded belongs to Perch. Bale should never have gotten away with that bullshit kick. Even if Perch had stood on his toes he'd have blocked that shot. Instead it goes straight over his head and he turns to watch it, disgusting on the replay. Also for Colo's part it's the kind of foul you see day in and day out and that's why we form a f***ing wall in the first place. Second goal is down to Colo and Taylor both, imo, Colo blew it to begin with but its no good when you have a situation where it's 100% certain that a centerback can't track back and at least pressure a forward who's got behind. Colo left Taylor out to dry, but god damn a CB with a shred of pace could have at least made Bale sweat a bit on the shot. Overall I'd like to see us phase Colo and Taylor both out. Both players are nearing the end of their peak abililities and while I have a lot of love for both players and they have both been great servants for the club, it is time to start looking toward replacements. Hopefully Mbiwa is the business and we can blood him in and bring in another hungry young CB behind him in the next year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 His pace would certainly prove useful against pace in the league. I still think we can be undone by pace at the back as proved yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 All I've said is that Colo needs to be gradually phased out when we're safe, and that Taylor shouldn't be dropped. I agree with this. If he's not going to be here next year and we're not struggling to survival, why shouldn't we phase him out and play with the players we'll actually have for next season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thought Colo was class today apart from the second goal. What about the first? Silly but that stuff happens all the time. The second was a real let down though. The first goal conceded belongs to Perch. Bale should never have gotten away with that bullshit kick. Even if Perch had stood on his toes he'd have blocked that shot. Instead it goes straight over his head and he turns to watch it, disgusting on the replay. Also for Colo's part it's the kind of foul you see day in and day out and that's why we form a f***ing wall in the first place. Second goal is down to Colo and Taylor both, imo, Colo blew it to begin with but its no good when you have a situation where it's 100% certain that a centerback can't track back and at least pressure a forward who's got behind. Colo left Taylor out to dry, but god damn a CB with a shred of pace could have at least made Bale sweat a bit on the shot. Overall I'd like to see us phase Colo and Taylor both out. Both players are nearing the end of their peak abililities and while I have a lot of love for both players and they have both been great servants for the club, it is time to start looking toward replacements. Hopefully Mbiwa is the business and we can blood him in and bring in another hungry young CB behind him in the next year or two. Taylor turned 27 about 3 weeks ago and is finally showing himself to be a good defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Thought Colo was class today apart from the second goal. What about the first? Silly but that stuff happens all the time. The second was a real let down though. The first goal conceded belongs to Perch. Bale should never have gotten away with that bullshit kick. Even if Perch had stood on his toes he'd have blocked that shot. Instead it goes straight over his head and he turns to watch it, disgusting on the replay. Also for Colo's part it's the kind of foul you see day in and day out and that's why we form a f***ing wall in the first place. Second goal is down to Colo and Taylor both, imo, Colo blew it to begin with but its no good when you have a situation where it's 100% certain that a centerback can't track back and at least pressure a forward who's got behind. Colo left Taylor out to dry, but god damn a CB with a shred of pace could have at least made Bale sweat a bit on the shot. Overall I'd like to see us phase Colo and Taylor both out. Both players are nearing the end of their peak abililities and while I have a lot of love for both players and they have both been great servants for the club, it is time to start looking toward replacements. Hopefully Mbiwa is the business and we can blood him in and bring in another hungry young CB behind him in the next year or two. Taylor turned 27 about 3 weeks ago and is finally showing himself to be a good defender. Can we fit him with rocket boots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He's not even that slow, he just got beaten for pace by one of the leagues quickest players. I thought Dawson was really good yesterday and he got outdone for pace by a well past his best Shearer a few years back. John Terry was never the quickest either. Taylor is a good defender, he just isn't going to beat the likes of Bale, Walcott etc.. in a race in the same way most other premier league defenders won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Taylor's fairly quick compared to a lot of the centre halves playing in the league. Right now he's playing a lot better than Coloccini, so if you were going to drop one it's a no brainer, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'd see how Mbiwa copes against metalist before making any snap judgements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Taylor's fairly quick compared to a lot of the centre halves playing in the league. Right now he's playing a lot better than Coloccini, so if you were going to drop one it's a no brainer, no? Colo's captaincy has to play into that eh? Not that I'd mind seeing Cabaye take the armband Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'd see how Mbiwa copes against metalist before making any snap judgements. So we're going to judge him after one game? Doesn't make any sense to me as the bloke is proven quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Pardew doesn't want to chop and change centre back partnerships, which imo isn't completely unreasonable, are people assuming it's cos this guy is no good? Blimey. It's a bit of a puzzle atm but if Mbiwa proves that he is up to pace I wouldn't mind him replacing either Colo or Saylor to inject some pace into the back two. It will be Saylor less to do with performances but out of Colo's track record and because he's our leader on the pitch. (Albeit palpably Cabaye is starting to act as it, witness him dragging Jonas back to the ref the other day) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 No puzzle for me, Pardew is easing him in and I have no issues with that. Especially as Taylor has come in and hasn't been shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The puzzle is who he'll replace not why he's not played, should have specified Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The puzzle is who he'll replace not why he's not played, should have specified As others have said, with Colo very likely away in the summer it would make sense for him to drop down. That said Taylor is always likely to pick up a knock so it might not be such an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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