Lotus Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I don't like all this 'MYM is a coward' crap. He's made some bad decisions no doubt but they were highlighting Vidic the other week as he ran away from the player with the ball who was closing in on goal. Wouldn't call Vidic a coward, was just a bad decision. MYM made a couple of them as well. Hopefully he'll improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Mapou did it 3 times though... not saying he is a coward.... but he does look like a coward sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheGreatBeardo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 You could even make out a case for playing Mapou at left back. Why he hasn't attempted 3 at the back with a sweeper and wing backs I don't know. Santon and Debuchy seem ideal wing back types. Still I guess that involves the manager doing a bit of coaching . That is the ideal formation for what we have. But it requires a very decent coach to implement as a lot of tactical nous and discipline is needed. Mbiwa/Taylor ball winners, Colo sweeping up. Lush If Saton and Debuchy are going to play as wingbacks they would need to be able to hit a decent cross, and I haven't seen much sign of that. Santon likes to come inside all the time on to his right foot, which is fine, but he would need to be more inclined to get to the byline and cross it as a wingback, because in that system it would be down to him to provide the width. Debuchy seems better suited to the job, but he doesn't seem to be the best crosser of a ball either. As for the 3 at the back, Colo is more than capable, he might even prefer it, and Mapou is probably also pretty familiar with it, but I doubt that Williamson or Taylor would have a clue what was going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 You could even make out a case for playing Mapou at left back. Why he hasn't attempted 3 at the back with a sweeper and wing backs I don't know. Santon and Debuchy seem ideal wing back types. Still I guess that involves the manager doing a bit of coaching . That is the ideal formation for what we have. But it requires a very decent coach to implement as a lot of tactical nous and discipline is needed. Mbiwa/Taylor ball winners, Colo sweeping up. Lush Exactly how I see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Debuchy and Santon getting more attacking responsibility doesn't exactly fill me with optimism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 The 352 or 532 as it often becomes if you end up defending too deep, looks good on paper, but unless you have a fantastic coach and the right players to do it, tends not to work. Martinez did it at Wigan but I don't think he has tried it at Everton yet, Rodgers has done it a couple of times at Liverpool this season but mainly because of injuries. MYM and Colo could certainly play in it, but we don't have a third defender who could comfortably unless Debuchy could. Because Santon cuts in all the time I don't see how he could be effective as a left wingback as someone pointed out already. I'm pretty sure it's all a mute point with Pardew in place anyhow, its far too exotic, foreign and complicated for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Like fuck would I trust Pardew to implement a successful 3-5-2 style formation. I still have nightmares about Shearer doing it away at Stoke, deploying David Edgar as a sort of half-sweeper for christs sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 With Coloccini riding a bike on the sidelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 David Edgar what happened to him? He looked good when he broke into the first team and scored against MU if I remember correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 David Edgar what happened to him? He looked good when he broke into the first team and scored against MU if I remember correctly. Went to burnely I think don't know after that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Like f*** would I trust Pardew to implement a successful 3-5-2 style formation. I still have nightmares about Shearer doing it away at Stoke, deploying David Edgar as a sort of half-sweeper for christs sake. Robson had a couple of mares with that formation as well, it's rarely paid off when we have deployed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 He had one game where he didn't disgrace himself and as per usual instantly became a 'really good one for the future'. Same with Ramage and Huntington. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I just checked he's still at Burnley seems to be playing regularly and they are currently top of the table. I think he always thought of himself as a CH though we played him at RB most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Of the three (Edgar, Ramage, Huntington), Huntington looked to me as if he had the most to his game but apparently not. We don't have a very good record for bringing in young players and improving them recently (since maybe Gazza and Waddle), hopefully Dummett, Bigi and Sammy don't go the same way as many of the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Huntington was absolutely abysmal and seemed more concerned about his hair than his performances whilst out on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Huntington was absolutely abysmal and seemed more concerned about his hair than his performances whilst out on the pitch. Alkmaar away. Not enough for that performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Ramage still made Huntington look decent at times. Remember West Ham at SJP (2-2). What Harewood did to Ramage before he went off with a fake injury was comedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Ramage was much better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We had 3 defensive midfielders imho v Everton and none of them supported our centre halfs at all first half but Mbiwa and Colo played like strangers both making individual errors so lets see how they play against Cardiff before being hasty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Willo is gonna start, going by Pards' post match comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Willo is gonna start, going by Pards' post match comment. knee jerk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Willo is gonna start, going by Pards' post match comment. knee jerk That's nee jerk at aal, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Any surprise? This is the man who goes through the entire catalogue of formations in 90 minutes, adds some invented ones to boot, and still loses home games trying to defend against promoted sides. Knee jerk? Someone put him out of his jerking misery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 With Coloccini riding a bike on the sidelines. Forgot about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 He had one game where he didn't disgrace himself and as per usual instantly became a 'really good one for the future'. Same with Ramage and Huntington. Did Ramage even have that? I remember Huntington playing well vs Blackburn away, Edgar keeping Ronaldo quiet and scoring vs Man U. f***ing Matty Pattison was dubbed the new Gazza after WBA at home. Ramage never looked that promising he just got a load of games cos someone was injured iirc. I think Edgar had the most potential out of all of them but seemed to be more interested in getting p*ssed on the Quayside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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