Guest Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 He should have at least been showing signs. Not finding himself 5th choice centre-back behind Williamson, Taylor & Dummett. He was very good at CB and then was promptly dropped. Not sure what else he can do. Fantastic against Chelsea and second best player on the pitch after Krul when we played Spurs. Shunted out to RB in the next match. The playing equivalent of finishing 5th and totally changing the formation. He Pardews all. Players, teams, set pieces. Oh and, 'optimistic nut', showing signs of what exactly? Hoofing the ball into touch at every opportunity, English style? He does a bit of that, but that's mainly lack of confidence and being coached to play a different way. What does he need to show more signs of then? s*** hair? That clogger chest-thumping from Taylor? Or whatever it is Dummett does? He showed signs of a winner when he captained Montpellier to the title. Wrong move for him clearly. That's the point I'm making. He should have been given games to show signs of his ability, not play second fiddle to a bunch of clobbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rent-A-Quote Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 That's the point I'm making. He should have been given games to show signs of his ability, not play second fiddle to a bunch of clobbers. Fair enough mate but the way you put it sounded like he's probably not doing enough in training. I guarantee that isn't the case. There is no way you can't show more than Willo or Taylor. Shola must have been a world beater in training, and he's toilet. The only manager who sussed him was Keegan and if he wasn't so injured he couldn't be insured then he would've went to Stoke when Keegan tried to shift him. Anyway, it's down to the management to get the best out of a player, training or a match. The same with Ben Arfa's situation, aye he's piled on the pounds but the management would have seen it coming. He didn't just turn up one day after being Pardewed suddenly fat. If given the patience and confidence to play his way, Mapou could/should be Colo's replacement. But with a bit pace. He's our quickest centre half by probably 50 metres out of 100. Imagine a 100m dash with Colo, Willo, Taylor and Mapou... Playing those slow defenders at the back makes a difference to the way we play too, not least the fact that our team looks terrified to really commit going forward because it's so slow all over the pitch but mainly at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I remember the clips of this guy from France when we were going for him. Honestly think he's a phenomenal talent. So good bringing the ball out from the back too. Well, hope he gets his career back on track wherever he ends up. Has been such a good pro through his mistreatment. Never moaned when on the bench, and didn't when he wa splayed at right back either. Just got on with it. He's class, such a massive waste if we don't get the best out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 I'd be thoroughly pissed off if we were flog MYM as well. He's potentially a brilliant CB who only needs an assured partner to compliment what he does best and that is read the game and play the ball out the back. If you watch his dribbling and passing at Montpellier it was obvious Rene Girard encouraged and gave him the confidence to do that. You see him now and his touch and dribble are timid, he's nervous on the ball and that is down to the manager getting on him or the instructions given to him in training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 The idea that Pardew will invest any time and coaching into fulfilling a young player's potential. It's honestly at the point I'd be happy seeing these players move on just to allow them to prove they actually are good players and not have their careers stalled any further. As long as it's not In the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Wonder where he'll end up, think he'd be a steal for someone tbh. He's not quite there yet but with a bit of decent coaching he'll be a very good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 This situation angers me far, far more than the Ben Arfa one, for some reason. Absolutely staggering incompetence on show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 27, 2014 Share Posted May 27, 2014 Some Italians like AC Milan will buy him and he'll fucking own the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 So he hasn't gone yet then. Taylor and Pards will be gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Makes me fucking sick, this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Deserved much more of a chance here. No one can dispute that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 "Would you like another season Tayls, would you?" height=300http://i3.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article1358013.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/newcastle-united-manager-alan-pardew-744057593-1358013.jpg[/img] http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2009/8/21/1250871533065/Steven-Taylor-001.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Absolute scandal Steven Taylor is still being paying a wage by this football club. He's a clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Makes me fucking sick this. How long did we waste scouting him? Just for this arsehole to shift him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Absolute scandal Steven Taylor is still being paying a wage by this football club. He's a clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Absolute scandal Steven Taylor is still being paying a wage by this football club. He's a clown. But he's a geordie, that's what the fans want to see playing for the club, they don't want forrins and cockneys /expert pundits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Get French Football @GFN_France 29s Talks between Bordeaux and Newcastle United regarding Mapou Yanga MBiwa have broken down because of his salary demands. #FCGB #NUF Considering their last big buys was 4 seasons ago and their biggest payout since was 3.5m, you have to wonder if there's an possibility in this transfer. Sold players for a net profit for the past few seasons too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 If that's the best move he can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Get French Football @GFN_France 29s Talks between Bordeaux and Newcastle United regarding Mapou Yanga MBiwa have broken down because of his salary demands. #FCGB #NUF Was always going to be the case. We can't afford to bring these guys over, make them look like they're crap, and so have to sell them back to smaller clubs, who then can't afford their salaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 He's surely too good to go to Bordeaux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 He's too good to sit on our bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Bordeauxing on the ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 I expect better from you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 just hope he only goes out on loan until pardew fucks this next season up, best case he gets the sack, mapou plays well on loan and a better manager brings him home best shot we have probably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 we selling him what the fuck, give him a chance at centreback pardew u clown, what he had one half at Everton and shifted to right back and left back, what a waste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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