Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa joins AS Roma then Lyon

[Ashley17]

I can name 5 good performances alongside Williamson we had last season.

 

Beat Spurs, beat Chelsea, Beat Hull away, draw with Liverpool ( I know he got sent off but was hardly his fault with Tiote playing everyone onside, didn't look like scoring up to that point) and City in the cup which we should have won, falling in extra time.

 

Not enough to suggest he's worth persisting with apparently, the only time he really disappointed at CB last season was Everton away.

 

Meanwhile I couldn't count on two hands the amount of times the other defenders have disappointed.

 

 

3 good games plus Spurs & 40 minutes against Liverpool. I'm loathe to include Spurs because they had about 30 shots, we were hardly water tight, but a clean sheet is a clean sheet I suppose. In truth, I don't think we've seen enough of him at centre half in the league to say for sure if he's any good or not, but we've seen plenty of the other three to suggest they aren't. When a team went more physical, as Everton did, he really struggled, and from the games you've listed they are teams who generally get the ball down and play. I can't see us buying anybody better than him so for that reason he's definitely worth giving another go.

[triggs]

I can name 5 good performances alongside Williamson we had last season.

 

Beat Spurs, beat Chelsea, Beat Hull away, draw with Liverpool ( I know he got sent off but was hardly his fault with Tiote playing everyone onside, didn't look like scoring up to that point) and City in the cup which we should have won, falling in extra time.

 

Not enough to suggest he's worth persisting with apparently, the only time he really disappointed at CB last season was Everton away.

 

Meanwhile I couldn't count on two hands the amount of times the other defenders have disappointed.

 

 

3 good games plus Spurs & 40 minutes against Liverpool. I'm loathe to include Spurs because they had about 30 shots, we were hardly water tight, but a clean sheet is a clean sheet I suppose. In truth, I don't think we've seen enough of him at centre half in the league to say for sure if he's any good or not, but we've seen plenty of the other three to suggest they aren't. When a team went more physical, as Everton did, he really struggled, and from the games you've listed they are teams who generally get the ball down and play. I can't see us buying anybody better than him so for that reason he's definitely worth giving another go.

IIRC and its very possible that I don't recall correctly, didn't Spurs just do that thing they always did under AVB of having the ball for ages but not creating anything and then taking a long shot against us?

[Guest bimpy474]

I can name 5 good performances alongside Williamson we had last season.

 

Beat Spurs, beat Chelsea, Beat Hull away, draw with Liverpool ( I know he got sent off but was hardly his fault with Tiote playing everyone onside, didn't look like scoring up to that point) and City in the cup which we should have won, falling in extra time.

 

Not enough to suggest he's worth persisting with apparently, the only time he really disappointed at CB last season was Everton away.

 

Meanwhile I couldn't count on two hands the amount of times the other defenders have disappointed.

 

 

3 good games plus Spurs & 40 minutes against Liverpool. I'm loathe to include Spurs because they had about 30 shots, we were hardly water tight, but a clean sheet is a clean sheet I suppose. In truth, I don't think we've seen enough of him at centre half in the league to say for sure if he's any good or not, but we've seen plenty of the other three to suggest they aren't. When a team went more physical, as Everton did, he really struggled, and from the games you've listed they are teams who generally get the ball down and play. I can't see us buying anybody better than him so for that reason he's definitely worth giving another go.

IIRC and its very possible that I don't recall correctly, didn't Spurs just do that thing they always did under AVB of having the ball for ages but not creating anything and then taking a long shot against us?

 

Erm, no they utterly battered us and Tim Krul did his best Superman impressions from all ranges.

[Mattoon]

I can name 5 good performances alongside Williamson we had last season.

 

Beat Spurs, beat Chelsea, Beat Hull away, draw with Liverpool ( I know he got sent off but was hardly his fault with Tiote playing everyone onside, didn't look like scoring up to that point) and City in the cup which we should have won, falling in extra time.

 

Not enough to suggest he's worth persisting with apparently, the only time he really disappointed at CB last season was Everton away.

 

Meanwhile I couldn't count on two hands the amount of times the other defenders have disappointed.

 

 

3 good games plus Spurs & 40 minutes against Liverpool. I'm loathe to include Spurs because they had about 30 shots, we were hardly water tight, but a clean sheet is a clean sheet I suppose. In truth, I don't think we've seen enough of him at centre half in the league to say for sure if he's any good or not, but we've seen plenty of the other three to suggest they aren't. When a team went more physical, as Everton did, he really struggled, and from the games you've listed they are teams who generally get the ball down and play. I can't see us buying anybody better than him so for that reason he's definitely worth giving another go.

IIRC and its very possible that I don't recall correctly, didn't Spurs just do that thing they always did under AVB of having the ball for ages but not creating anything and then taking a long shot against us?

 

Erm, no they utterly battered us and Tim Krul did his best Superman impressions from all ranges.

 

Iirc Krul holds the record for most shots saved in a match at 14 in that game?

[Guest bimpy474]

I can name 5 good performances alongside Williamson we had last season.

 

Beat Spurs, beat Chelsea, Beat Hull away, draw with Liverpool ( I know he got sent off but was hardly his fault with Tiote playing everyone onside, didn't look like scoring up to that point) and City in the cup which we should have won, falling in extra time.

 

Not enough to suggest he's worth persisting with apparently, the only time he really disappointed at CB last season was Everton away.

 

Meanwhile I couldn't count on two hands the amount of times the other defenders have disappointed.

 

 

3 good games plus Spurs & 40 minutes against Liverpool. I'm loathe to include Spurs because they had about 30 shots, we were hardly water tight, but a clean sheet is a clean sheet I suppose. In truth, I don't think we've seen enough of him at centre half in the league to say for sure if he's any good or not, but we've seen plenty of the other three to suggest they aren't. When a team went more physical, as Everton did, he really struggled, and from the games you've listed they are teams who generally get the ball down and play. I can't see us buying anybody better than him so for that reason he's definitely worth giving another go.

IIRC and its very possible that I don't recall correctly, didn't Spurs just do that thing they always did under AVB of having the ball for ages but not creating anything and then taking a long shot against us?

 

Erm, no they utterly battered us and Tim Krul did his best Superman impressions from all ranges.

 

Iirc Krul holds the record for most shots saved in a match at 14 in that game?

 

Aye, from when they started recording the amount of saves, since 2006 ? i think.

[thenige]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

[Guest bimpy474]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

 

I agree with most of that tbf. The one thing that will annoy though, is if we do shift MYM we'll end (could) up buying or loaning someone not as good, probably on the same money. Which makes it daft to loan or sell MYM in the first place.

[Mattoon]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

 

I agree with most of that tbf. The one thing that will annoy though, is if we do shift MYM we'll end (could) up buying or loaning someone not as good, probably on the same money. Which makes it daft to loan or sell MYM in the first place.

 

All our defenders have that problem though, it's just MYM isn't a Pard favourite and he can't get it out his head that he's somehow a RB? If/when we offload him I fully expect us to get another tall CB clogger which is a shame.

[Guest bimpy474]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

 

I agree with most of that tbf. The one thing that will annoy though, is if we do shift MYM we'll end (could) up buying or loaning someone not as good, probably on the same money. Which makes it daft to loan or sell MYM in the first place.

 

All our defenders have that problem though, it's just MYM isn't a Pard favourite and he can't get it out his head that he's somehow a RB? If/when we offload him I fully expect us to get another tall CB clogger which is a shame.

 

Aye, we do need a clogger type though, prefer the term no nonsense myself But to play alongside MYM, not to replace him.

[Flip]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

 

I agree with most of that tbf. The one thing that will annoy though, is if we do shift MYM we'll end (could) up buying or loaning someone not as good, probably on the same money. Which makes it daft to loan or sell MYM in the first place.

 

All our defenders have that problem though, it's just MYM isn't a Pard favourite and he can't get it out his head that he's somehow a RB? If/when we offload him I fully expect us to get another tall CB clogger which is a shame.

 

Aye, we do need a clogger type though, prefer the term no nonsense myself But to play alongside MYM, not to replace him.

 

It's quite clear as a day as well. No idea how that Douglas guy was and how he's doing but he was the type of player that we seemingly needed alongside MYM.

[Mattoon]

Just strikes me as a player who has always got a mistake waiting to happen (which you could probably say about all our CBs in fairness). Given he's unlikely to be first choice under Pardew, can see why Pards is trying to shift him given the high wages. 

 

 

 

I agree with most of that tbf. The one thing that will annoy though, is if we do shift MYM we'll end (could) up buying or loaning someone not as good, probably on the same money. Which makes it daft to loan or sell MYM in the first place.

 

All our defenders have that problem though, it's just MYM isn't a Pard favourite and he can't get it out his head that he's somehow a RB? If/when we offload him I fully expect us to get another tall CB clogger which is a shame.

 

Aye, we do need a clogger type though, prefer the term no nonsense myself But to play alongside MYM, not to replace him.

 

This. We should be keeping MYM to replace Colo, he's on the decline, Colo and a commanding CB would work, with a view to MYM replacing him in the long term. Can see Pardew wanting 2 commanding CBs though, so long as they can jump and we can float a FK or corner to them.

 

Fwiw I think MYM was brought in to replace Colo until he pulled a 180 and stayed and now he's surplus to requirements cuz Pards will never replace his captain.

[loki679]

Just think, if Kinnear hadn't stopped that deal then when Colo and the glass idiot got injured we might have stumbled on the perfect partnership in Douglas and MYM.  They could have gone on to power us to champions league and premiership glory for years to come.

 

Oh well, still got Willo and the bestest set penis in the world.

[Guest bimpy474]

Just think, if Kinnear hadn't stopped that deal then when Colo and the glass idiot got injured we might have stumbled on the perfect partnership in Douglas and MYM.  They could have gone on to power us to champions league and premiership glory for years to come.

 

Oh well, still got Willo and the bestest set penis in the world.

 

[Dokko]

Our defence is a joke. There's nothing there I'd be too arsed about losing, however mapou would be one of the last, I'd certainly not loan him out or sell him at a meaningful loss.

[Wallace]

Apparently one of Pardew's issues with MYM is that he is poor in the air but I wouldn't say our other central defenders are that great in the air either.

 

 

[Ronaldo]

Mapou and Colo are both terrible in the air. Both of them need to be paired with someone we apparently aren't willing to buy.

[aussiemag]

Mapou and Colo are both terrible in the air. Both of them need to be paired with someone we apparently aren't willing to buy.

 

Shows how much the club take note of Pardews opinion. Im sure hes been banging on about signing an aerially dominant centre half for three years now.

[toontownman]

http://cdn.caughtoffside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Yango-Newcastle.jpg

 

Unimpressive Haka to watch or thinking.. RB again Alan?

 

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/07/26/images-newcastle-united-players-awkwardly-endure-topless-haka-performance-before-friendly-win-in-wellington/?

[TRon]

Mapou and Colo are both terrible in the air. Both of them need to be paired with someone we apparently aren't willing to buy.

 

Both would look perfectly fine next to someone like Hangelaand from a couple of years ago.

[Ronaldo]

They'd never look perfectly fine but they'd be less exposed.

[TRon]

See, for me, it's the likes of Williamson and Taylor who are more likely to be exposed over a full season, although not necessarily in the air. Try playing the two of them together and see how that works out.

[Ronaldo]

I'd rather we just signed two proper defenders who don't need to have their hands held.

[r0cafella]

I'd rather we just signed two proper defenders who don't need to have their hands held.

 

Too bad we seem to have no intention of spending any of the TV money.

[Guest chopey]

I'd rather we just signed two proper defenders who don't need to have their hands held.

 

Southampton and Villa seem to enjoy a good fire sale have either of them not got a decent centre half we could pick up ?

[r0cafella]

I'd rather we just signed two proper defenders who don't need to have their hands held.

 

Southampton and Villa seem to enjoy a good fire sale have either of them not got a decent centre half we could pick up ?

Lol, no chance we would pay Southampton prices.