Interpolic Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 You've literally never been right about anything once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 What will a wide man who has no burst of pace,power or conviction do out wide? Amble around the paddock looking like a hybrid of Viana and Luque. probably why both he and Cabella were both played primarily as number 10's and not shunted on the wing as we've done. Same goes with Viana when he was here. Not that any of them have convinced me they'll do any better ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 He seems a lot more physical than Cabella to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 If he can't get on for 20 minutes at the end in a game like this where we were absolutely crying out for some width and spark in the final third... Doesn't look good for the guy like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I always think he should come on but then on the rare occasions he does come on he's usually poor. Not sure what's up with him. We don't really have the luxury of letting him bed in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 He seems a lot more physical than Cabella to me. Aye, it's no competition really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Oh for a Ben Arfa 20 minute cameo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 At least Cabella scored and created chances in games, I cant see this lad doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Cabella scored one goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Cabella scored one goal. I'd bet Thauvin doesn't score a Premiership goal this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Cabella scored one goal. I'd bet Thauvin doesn't score a Premiership goal this season. If he continues to be marginalised you'll be right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 They showed the third mackem goal again on Soccer Saturday earlier today and his 'effort' was absolutely fucking criminal. Shameful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Think we could've done with him, tbh. He's not shown much, aye, but we should've stuck him out on the left for the last 20 minutes and tried to stretch Stoke and get some crosses in with a genuine left footer. I'm all for fluidity but it was too much today and resulted in something much narrower than we needed, Mitrovic was dropping in midfield sometimes when there was just no need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I thought he should have been on in the second half, like. I'd like to see him given something resembling a run in the side and see what he offers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 If Ayoze was flagging/as tired as people have said, it was an ideal opportunity: Gini behind Mitro, Thauvin left. Feel like SMc has to 'sensibly' gamble with him, and show a belief in him (beyond what he feels) to raise confidence and get him firing on all cylinders. One thing's certain, it isn't going to happen solely through training, talking, or reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 If we're not going to play him at all and we 'need' (we absolutely don't) to sell we might as well try and ship him out in January as his being here is absolutely pointless at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Like most people I've been really disappointed with Thauvin, but I think our circumstances and use of him has been the worst possible way to introduce him. I think he will come good, but he's one of those players that will take time to adapt. To accelerate that adaptation he needs to be playing each week, but 15/20 mins here and there and ideally when we are on top so the pressure is off. We can't offer him that, so he's either thrown in the deep end with pressure or we can't afford to throw him on as we don't trust he can deliver. Terrible situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 De Jong, Cabella and this guy. Nice going, Graeme. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 De Jong, Cabella and this guy. Nice going, Graeme. £25m or thereabouts could have been better spent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Graham. I'm loath to defend Carr but de Jong is a very fine footballer who's had abysmal luck with injuries and Thauvin will come good eventually here or elsewhere. He's too talented not to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Makes me laugh this Carr criticism. Pretty sure if you analyse most clubs transfers they get as much wrong as they get right overall, the ones who buck this tends trend are the ones who win stuff. It's not Carr's fault how parsimonious the club are, I have no problem with him. I'd much rather him picking the signings than another Pardew, or worse Carver. No idea about McClaren's record on transfers but I'd wager a guess it's not amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Graham. I'm loath to defend Carr but de Jong is a very fine footballer who's had abysmal luck with injuries and Thauvin will come good eventually here or elsewhere. He's too talented not to. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Makes me laugh this Carr criticism. Pretty sure if you analyse most clubs transfers they get as much wrong as they get right overall, the ones who buck this tends trend are the ones who win stuff. This isn't really true. The clubs that win stuff spend the most money on transfers and wages. Look at City, Barcelona, Chelsea - they sign a lot of flops. The issue with Thauvin is that he isn't even highly rated. He seemed to have a great breakout season and nothing since. I don't see significant quality with the lad. Add to the fact he doesn't seem physically up to it too. We needed strengthening in other areas it just looks shit. We needed a CM. I'm assuming Wijnaldum was bought for that purpose - he's at LM. We neeeded a genuine wide player but it seems Thauvin is more of a #10, but I'm assuming we bought him to play wide. I just struggle to see what the intended line-up for this season was meant to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Yeah I want to see Thauvin on the left wing and Wijnaldum in the middle. We're always going to play 2 sitting midfielders though as the idea is for one of them to cover a fullback who bombs forward whilst the other stays central to protect the defence. Unless we abandon that idea, which I suspect we won't, then it'll be 2 DMs and that rules out Wijnaldum or at least renders him very ineffective if he took up that role. He could play the Perez role of course, but then that means replacing Perez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Makes me laugh this Carr criticism. Pretty sure if you analyse most clubs transfers they get as much wrong as they get right overall, the ones who buck this tends trend are the ones who win stuff. This isn't really true. The clubs that win stuff spend the most money on transfers and wages. Look at City, Barcelona, Chelsea - they sign a lot of flops. The issue with Thauvin is that he isn't even highly rated. He seemed to have a great breakout season and nothing since. I don't see significant quality with the lad. Add to the fact he doesn't seem physically up to it too. We needed strengthening in other areas it just looks shit. We needed a CM. I'm assuming Wijnaldum was bought for that purpose - he's at LM. We neeeded a genuine wide player but it seems Thauvin is more of a #10, but I'm assuming we bought him to play wide. I just struggle to see what the intended line-up for this season was meant to be. All over the place this post, and we know it all anyway. Winning clubs spend more obviously but they get a better proportion of signings right on the whole imo. As regards the rest of your post none of it, while true, proves any of it is down to Carr. Could have been Little Mike and his balance sheet making the calls, probably was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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