Guest Shorty Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I can't remember a second half where i have felt worse. Stomach was in knots whole way through adrenaline pumping so couldnt sleep for hours after full time which isnt great when you have work the next day! As many have said feel we won in spite of Pards not because of him but still feel with the new boys coming in and us finally winning away there are/were more positives to take then negatives. Eh aye eh aye eh aye oh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The ref had a good game tonight apart from the penalty tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 gonna ask again, what the fuck led to the build up for the penalty?! Camera was too busy showing a replay but beforehand the ball went out for our throw. It then cuts back and the ball is rolling through our 18 yard box and Debuchy fouls Agbonlahor. Have we still not learned how to take a throw-in properly?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just watched the highlights, the penalty looks ridiculously soft. Even worse than live. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think criticism of Pardew is harsh in this instance. We're very low on confidence, we were always going to resort to seat of our pants defending in the second half. Had they not scored so early I think it would've ended up much like the first as their belief drained away. We had a bad run under KK during the promotion season, but the team never lacked confidence and Keegan never let them.... Its up to the manager to take the pressure and sort out the team...whether in their heads or on the training ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The ref had a good game tonight apart from the penalty tbf debuchy should never have made the oppotunity for him to give it. Much worse defending than refereering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just watched the highlights, the penalty looks ridiculously soft. Even worse than live. It was a clumsy challenge by Debuchy - he didn't even need to try to tackle at that point as the player was going away from goal. He caught him without touching the ball so it was a pen....we probably wouldn't have been awarded it, but that's what happens in away games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I thought it was an obvious pel tbh..... silly, clumsy challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Excellent first-half from us and very good second-half from them. There's no doubt that given time and space as we were in the first-half we will prosper. In particular Sissoko and Cabaye were excellent, Cisse's movement was great and Gouffran and Jonas were progressive. Top-class finishes from both and a superb ball from Sissoko. Second-half they went shit or bust in both formation and attitude, something of a firestorm really. I remember a volleyed cross-field pass from one of theirs that was top-class and things did keep coming off for them. The increase in tempo, especially Agbonlahor's pace, really unsettled us and led to the penalty however soft it was. Getting that goal so early lifted them and the crowd. But Krul made some excellent stops and dominated the crosses when he could, a really mature performance from him. It also seems to me that Taylor and Coloccini are really resilient as a pair and they do complement each other. That back three is a strong combination. I don't know what Pardew could have done about the substitutions really. The ball kept coming back at us, Shola is our best chance of holding it up as Cisse doesn't play that way, Gouffran was tired as was Sissoko and the problem was the 'riches' available on the bench. Cabaye could barely run by the end. We have more than enough to stay up and some real quality in depth in some areas but glaring weaknesses in others (forward options, hence Shola). Hats off to our fans who observed the minute's applause for Stylian Petrov impeccably, joining in the clapping and not singing through the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 i think as gouffran gets up to speed with the premiership's physical demands, we will see less and less of shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 i think as gouffran gets up to speed with the premiership's physical demands, we will see less and less of shola Nah, he'll always be required for physical presence up front, unless we buy a forward who can hold the ball up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Thankfully I've woken up on the right side of bed this morning. We won with some positives coming mainly from the new signings. I just hope Pardew makes me eat my words about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 From what I seen of Gouffran yesterday, he had no bother holding it up well the few times he had to. I don't even think Shola holds it up well at all now, gives it away more often than not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Never a pen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Watching Cissé's goal again, and that is an absolutely great advantage played by the referee. We need to see more of that. He's a top ref, to be fair. Gets a lot of daft stick on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Watching Cissé's goal again, and that is an absolutely great advantage played by the referee. We need to see more of that. He's a top ref, to be fair. Gets a lot of daft stick on here. He's not perfect but I thought it was a pen and generally is the best ref in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Just watched the highlights, the penalty looks ridiculously soft. Even worse than live. It was a clumsy challenge by Debuchy - he didn't even need to try to tackle at that point as the player was going away from goal. He caught him without touching the ball so it was a pen....we probably wouldn't have been awarded it, but that's what happens in away games. Fair point I suppose. I just thought he didn't even really make a challenge. He just ran towards the ball, Agbonlahor got in front of him and fell over. I know they're usually given, but that's a problem with the game IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ok first off he never challenged him and it was never a foul, though most of you seem to think he did so here it goes. To be a penalty it has to be a foul inside the box that prevents a goal scoring opportunity and/or the player/ball is heading towards the goal. Agbonlahor was heading away from goal, the ball was heading away from goal, there was no goal scoring opportunity there to stop a goal scoring opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Never a pen. In a million years. Should've been a yellow for Abonglamong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So it's ok to foul someone in the box as long as they're not going towards goal? First I've heard of that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ok first off he never challenged him and it was never a foul, though most of you seem to think he did so here it goes. To be a penalty it has to be a foul inside the box that prevents a goal scoring opportunity and/or the player/ball is heading towards the goal. Agbonlahor was heading away from goal, the ball was heading away from goal, there was no goal scoring opportunity there to stop a goal scoring opportunity. What on earth are you talking about? It was a foul in the box - penalty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 So it's ok to foul someone in the box as long as they're not going towards goal? First I've heard of that! For a penalty to be awarded 1 or more of these should happen. The ball or player must be travelling/facing towards goal. There is a goal scoring opportunity. A deliberate hand ball. If there is a foul in the box and non of those situations apply then it is an indirect free kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Ok first off he never challenged him and it was never a foul, though most of you seem to think he did so here it goes. To be a penalty it has to be a foul inside the box that prevents a goal scoring opportunity and/or the player/ball is heading towards the goal. Agbonlahor was heading away from goal, the ball was heading away from goal, there was no goal scoring opportunity there to stop a goal scoring opportunity. You dont even know the rules. Not a penalty unless its a goal scoring opportunity? What you onnabout man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 It wasn't a foul though. Debuchy touched him, but the cunt dived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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