Stifler Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If we are consistent across the season then top 8, we are a couple of defensive signings away from the top 6, top 5 if one of the 'elite' teams have a bad season like Chelsea a few years ago. On our day, with a bit of luck we can beat anyone in the league (not strong enough to do it across a season though). For this reason I'd say we are as good as anyone for the cups, I would imagine that a lot of teams would want to keep away from us in the draws. If we have a bad season though I can see us finishing 12th-ish, and that would be acceptable if we are showing the rights signs of improvements on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If we are consistent across the season then top 8, we are a couple of defensive signings away from the top 6, top 5 if one of the 'elite' teams have a bad season like Chelsea a few years ago. On our day, with a bit of luck we Callum's beat anyone in the league (not strong enough to do it across a season though). For this reason I'd say we are as good as anyone for the cups, I would imagine that a lot of teams would want to keep away from us in the draws. If we have a bad season though I can see us finishing 12th-ish, and that would be acceptable if we are showing the rights signs of improvements on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Forgot that it was via fair play league. Fair enough, bad example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Should be competing to be top of the third group of teams (City, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal = 1, Spurs, Liverpool =2). The next 6-7 spots will be tight throughout the season and we should be up there with Everton and Swansea rather than down with Palace and West Ham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. Steve Black to the rescue then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. I think thats what steve black is there for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 No idea. A lot of new signings. Don't know how good Chancel, Wijnaldum, Thauvin & Mitro are in the PL. And they are all crucial to our success. This. Is. New. Information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 You lot are deluded with your 8th and 10th place finishes with this squad.... The only place we could possibly finish with this squad is 1st Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I'll be disappointed if we don't finish top 10 tbh, but I reckon this season will be more about making progress and relearning football. I don't think the tough start is going to help either, it would have been nice to get some momentum going early. Still, if we can get through them relatively unscathed, then we should be in good shape for the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. This is exactly right. Consider how fucking atrocious we were at the start of last season and Pardew fluked 6 wins that dragged him into 5th after 17 games was it? We'll be much less 'streaky' under McLaren but if we match that sort of points haul and avoid a Carver-esque collapse then we'll be top half in with a shout imo. Cup runs if they come, and biblical injury plagues will be what stops that happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. Steve Black to the rescue then. If it was just our XI, I'd say Europa league. But it isn't, so I'd say 10th. We'll still probably finish 12th. No faith in McClaren's motivational abilities if we hit a rocky patch. I think thats what steve black is there for. Well that'll be nice if it works. Although no matter what it'll still be slightly odd for the GAFFA to be sat in the background while his spirit squad steps in for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The first XI is potentially pretty decent but the squad is paper thin and the team don't have a style of their own yet. Given that, and that Cisse/Williamson/Colback/Anita/Taylor will feature heavily in all likeliness, 10th is the most optimistic I could see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The first XI is potentially pretty decent but the squad is paper thin and the team don't have a style of their own yet. Given that, and that Cisse/Williamson/Colback/Anita/Taylor will feature heavily in all likeliness, 10th is the most optimistic I could see. Think you've mixed in some very decent players with the rubbish there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 When everyone is fit I think we have 3 weak spots in the team, although I think we can resolve one with better team selection. Although Colo was excellent against Manure, we all know that that form isn't going to be maintained over the season. LB is still a weak spot, we could easily upgrade. And Colback for me is the weak link in the centre, although I would like to see us try someone else in that role, maybe DeJong. It's a top half of the table squad for sure, thin in some areas, so vital we keep them all fit. What will be interesting though is if we drop into the relegation zone after the weekend, which as it's Arsenal is entirely possible how they cope, the longer we go without that first PL win of the season, the more pressure mounts on the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 It depends on whether the likes of Tiote and Cisse can return to previous form and fulfill the squad roles they need to. If we had 2010-2012 Tiote then I don't see CM as a need. Obviously the left side of the defence has serious question marks. That said, Tottenham finished 6th with a starting CM pair of Nabil Benteleb and Ryan Mason, whilst Eric Dire and Younes Kaboul saw time at CB. Honestly I think 8th should be the minimum this Newcastle squad achieves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I honestly forgot we were quite low in the league, the feeling is still really positive. I don't think pressure will start to build for ages yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Colback is a good bench option, he shouldn't start. Though Anita had a good game at OT I don't think he can produce it week in and week out, in fact that was one of a couple of games that would suit his playing style. I'm not a fan of Tiote, he can't pass and too often he goes in too heavy, he limits our play so much. He has a good game or two in a season, but nowhere near enough to be in our first 11. In saying that he's the better option out of Anita, and Colback. I honestly think we could get rid of 2 of them and bring in a good quality DM instead for the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 You and Jack had a falling out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 This year? I'm not too fussed about where we finish up. I'd rather see an improvement in the way we play as well as setting up a spine for the team's future. It's all about bedding in Gini, Thauvin, Mitrovic and Mbemba. These four as well as Krul, Janmaat and Sissoko could be the backbone of our team for years to come and if we can add to it every transfer window, we could end up in that 4-8 range in 2017 and on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 10th wouldn't be that bad really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 This year? I'm not too fussed about where we finish up. I'd rather see an improvement in the way we play as well as setting up a spine for the team's future. It's all about bedding in Gini, Thauvin, Mitrovic and Mbemba. These four as well as Krul, Janmaat and Sissoko could be the backbone of our team for years to come and if we can add to it every transfer window, we could end up in that 4-8 range in 2017 and on. How many of those players do you think will still be here in 2017? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 Agreed with ~10th. Simple fact is there are at least 8 teams I'd consider better than us and several others abount the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 This year? I'm not too fussed about where we finish up. I'd rather see an improvement in the way we play as well as setting up a spine for the team's future. It's all about bedding in Gini, Thauvin, Mitrovic and Mbemba. These four as well as Krul, Janmaat and Sissoko could be the backbone of our team for years to come and if we can add to it every transfer window, we could end up in that 4-8 range in 2017 and on. How many of those players do you think will still be here in 2017? That's the big question, right? Reckon we'll sell one of them most likely Sissoko or Janmaat next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The defence is genuinely atrocious and much of the talent is young and experienced. Finishing top half is a good goal, but I'm not too fussed about it. This season is more about building a team unit, restoring a positive atmosphere around the club, and having a legitimate go at winning cups. Without major sales and some more good purchases, this side could actually be competitive in 2016-2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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