Wigan Athletic 2 - 1 Newcastle United - 17/03/13 - post-match reaction from p61

[Interpolic]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were shit without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were shit, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

[chicago_shearer]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Good post.

 

 

 

[Foluwashola]

Can't believe people are blaming the manager/team after that refereeing performance like. Fuck off man.

 

Wish Carver had fucking killed someone.

[Wullie]

Can't believe people are blaming the manager/team after that refereeing performance like. Fuck off man.

 

Wish Carver had fucking killed someone.

 

Not sure why the two have to be mutually exclusive.

 

You can be screwed by the bent ref and still put in an utterly shit performance.

[henke]

We were absolute dogshit, end of story. Like we have been all season.

 

We have some very good players but my word they struggle to perform together.

[Guest]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

[Interpolic]

Can't believe people are blaming the manager/team after that refereeing performance like. Fuck off man.

 

Wish Carver had fucking killed someone.

 

So the lack of an attacking plan goes out of the window as a criticism when one of our players gets done? Come off it man.

 

I could perhaps buy into the reasoning that we were upset and angry at the challenge, causing a disjointed attacking effort against shite relegation fodder thereafter... if we didn't play like that every fucking game!

 

The referee's performance was pathetic and so was ours, again.

[Foluwashola]

Why does everything have to be the manger's fault? Sissoko played like a fucking mortal doylum today, will he be lambasted? 

 

Everything went against us today, lets move on.

[NG32]

Can't believe people are blaming the manager/team after that refereeing performance like. f*** off man.

 

Wish Carver had f***ing killed someone.

 

Not sure why the two have to be mutually exclusive.

 

You can be screwed by the bent ref and still put in an utterly s*** performance.

 

 

We weren't looking good at all but we did lose the distribution and the attack support from Debucy, we then lost his replacement and should have been up against 10 men.  Our whole game plan (I KNOW) was screwed up by misfotrune and the ref.

 

We bumbled an equaliser and were then royally fucked by the only blind officials in the world.

 

[Numbers]

Missed Cabaye, like ive already said we lost momenum as we lost players.

 

 

[Skeletor]

I know people are frustrated after another lacklustre performance but it is a fact that if the referee does his job and rules the 2nd Wigan goal off then we would have had a point. In that way the ref has cost us.

[Wullie]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

Should still be putting in a better display against the team with the worst home record in the entire country.

 

The handball screwed us out of a point and I said yesterday that a point was a shit result and it would have been.

 

Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm raging at the officials but just utterly sick of Pardew.

[Interpolic]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

On the whole, good performances where you dominate the opposition yield points more often than not and trying to squeak your way to a tedious win is a risky business. We only have ourselves to blame when it doesn't work out.

[Guest]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

Should still be putting in a better display against the team with the worst home record in the entire country.

 

The handball screwed us out of a point and I said yesterday that a point was a s*** result and it would have been.

 

Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm raging at the officials but just utterly sick of Pardew.

 

It shouldn't. We were poor but should be sitting with an extra 1 or 3 points.

[Wullie]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

Should still be putting in a better display against the team with the worst home record in the entire country.

 

The handball screwed us out of a point and I said yesterday that a point was a s*** result and it would have been.

 

Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm raging at the officials but just utterly sick of Pardew.

 

It shouldn't. We were poor but should be sitting with an extra 1 or 3 points.

 

That would be great in isolation but we'd still be poor next week and the week after that. He needs to go if we're ever not going to be poor.

[Darth Crooks]

I know people are frustrated after another lacklustre performance but it is a fact that if the referee does his job and rules the 2nd Wigan goal off then we would have had a point. In that way the ref has cost us.

 

Absolutely. What  beleve people are sick of is the fact we are scrabbling about for the points at the bottom with the dross after a season of identi-shit performances even after the influx of players that Pardew stated were requred to push on. Any other way and this game panning out in the same way and I'm sure a lot more people would just chalk it off to a shit referee and a poor day at the office.

 

The ref has cost any advantage we may have had for sure and he needs to be rightfully scorned but other teams can get past that. Reading yesterday managed to give good account of themselves despite a shite decision. We have been pss poor for a very long time and people are sick of it; the manner of this defeat just hammers that home.

[Guest]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

Should still be putting in a better display against the team with the worst home record in the entire country.

 

The handball screwed us out of a point and I said yesterday that a point was a s*** result and it would have been.

 

Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm raging at the officials but just utterly sick of Pardew.

 

It shouldn't. We were poor but should be sitting with an extra 1 or 3 points.

 

That would be great in isolation but we'd still be poor next week and the week after that. He needs to go if we're ever not going to be poor.

 

That's been the first poor performance since Reading perhaps? He's had a good run of about 10 games where on the whole we've been improving.

[Mistle17]

As always with travelling to that shithole, everything that could have gone wrong did. Please just let them get relegated and be rid of them forever, repulsive, soulless club.

[The College Dropout]

Did we go with a back 3 when Shola came on?  Looked that way to me. Jonas was rarely in line with the other 3 and Perch was very narrow with Santon very wide.

 

 

Thing is Santon rarely ran back to make it a 5 but Jonas did. Leading me to believe perhaps Jonas was just bad positionally. Perch too.

[Mick]

Why does everything have to be the manger's fault? Sissoko played like a f***ing mortal doylum today, will he be lambasted? 

 

Everything went against us today, lets move on.

 

Aye, let's move on, to the next game where we're more than likely going to be poor, I can't wait.

[Wullie]

We are f***ing s*** officiating regardless. We can blame lousy decisions but when you have a team of good players playing obscenely badly it's the coaching teams fault. These players head balls without think where the ball will go, hoof and pass to the opposition and over play things when glaringly obvious easy passes could be made. They don't even do the basics right and haven't for a long time. it's a f***ing shambles.

 

Any impetus and inventiveness the new players brought has been coached out to revert to safe tactic norm. We are atrocious and for no other reason than the way we are set up. We should have hammered Wigan today. I have No idea what we do on the training ground but it's obviously a far cry from what every other club does because we continue to make poor teams look dangerous and better teams like Barcelona.

 

Knee jerk reaction over and out.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

We've been cheated out of a point and a opposition red card but it doesn't change the fact that we were absymal today.

 

Again, irrelevant.

 

How the f*** is it irrelevant? Had we got a point I'd have still said we were s***. Because we were.

 

It's not relevant because even though we were s***, that isn't even the second reason we lost, let alone the first.

 

It just just seems pointless to mention it when it's a by-product of us not only having loads of players out injured, but being completely f***ed over by the officials. And not just the direct affect that those things have, but the way it effected our play.

 

Our attacking play is clueless and appalling every week, yet it's not worth criticising our attacking play for being clueless and appalling this week, because the ref was s****?

 

No, what I mean is that this match hasn't even given me the opportunity to criticise our shitness. We were s*** without Cabaye, then Debuchy, then Haidara. And with the worst refereeing performance I've seen since Martin Atkinson's.

 

We were s***, but nowhere near as much as we were robbed and unlucky. Our shitness just doesn't seem worth being talked about after that. They're justifiably excused today.

 

I'm not buying anything implying the side we had out today wasn't good enough to get a point or 3 off Wigan, sorry.

 

The last 3 starting 11s to play Wigan away were:

 

http://i.imgur.com/YifVmSw.jpg

 

(0-4, 2-2, 2-3).  Hardly worldbeaters on the whole but they all got more than we did.

 

And I'm also not buying us simply being on the bad side of misfortune and bad refereeing today either, we looked toothless.  Bad luck implies we deserved something out of the performance and we didn't.  I'll grant you that we should have been up against 10 men and might have then made a better fist of it, but it comes to something when you're bemoaning not having a numerical advantage against a team looking nailed on to be relegated instead of just getting on with beating them.

 

Whether we've played well or not, we should be sitting here tonight with at least 1, maybe 3 points.

 

Should still be putting in a better display against the team with the worst home record in the entire country.

 

The handball screwed us out of a point and I said yesterday that a point was a s*** result and it would have been.

 

Why does it have to be one or the other? I'm raging at the officials but just utterly sick of Pardew.

 

It shouldn't. We were poor but should be sitting with an extra 1 or 3 points.

 

That would be great in isolation but we'd still be poor next week and the week after that. He needs to go if we're ever not going to be poor.

 

That's been the first poor performance since Reading perhaps? He's had a good run of about 10 games where on the whole we've been improving.

 

So we played well at Swansea and Spurs and still got nothing? That's worse tbh.

 

I don't think we did play well in those games like.

[ujpest doza]

Did we go with a back 3 when Shola came on?  Looked that way to me. Jonas was rarely in line with the other 3 and Perch was very narrow with Santon very wide.

 

 

Thing is Santon rarely ran back to make it a 5 but Jonas did. Leading me to believe perhaps Jonas was just bad positionally. Perch too.

We did which was why Santon was so far upfield and able to score.

 

Martinez post match interview was a dsigrace.

 

When told their goal was a handball he was chuffed to bits, said it was great because they've had loads go against them so it was nice to get one for a change and of course like McManananananman is a lovely lad who wouldn't hurt a fly and helps old ladies across the road.

 

I thought we played very well up until Debuchy's injury caused us to reshuffle and this lost us our momentum and we were all over the place for the next 40 minutes or so but then came back into it and could have won it ourselves before their cheating winner which looked deliberate to me.

[binnsy]

Nightmare of an afternoon.  Debuchy going off was huge and conceding so quickly after making the changes but us on the back foot after a pretty bright start.

Haidara's injury is a real sickener,  a shocking challenge compounded by the ref not even awarding a freekick.

Thought we got better in the 2nd half and once Pardew brought Shola on and made the tactical switch of going 3 at the back thought once we equalised it only looked like there'd be one winner, NUFC.

In saying that thought Sissoko had a poor game by the high standards he has shown so far and Tiote had a shocker of a game. 

The ending of the game was a real killer though, the ref misses a corner for us, they go up the pitch get a corner and then miss the handball leading up to the goal.

Halsey was pathetic all game obviously missing the challenge on Haidara and the handball will get the headlines but also i was amazed he didn't send Perch off,  already booked for a kick on Kone, how he then didn't award a 2nd yellow when he slid in on the edge of the area to give a free kick was again shocking refereeing, it was a stone wall yellow.

 

On the plus side,  despite the defeat we climbed 1 place up the table and that doesn't happen very often.

[Mick]

 

 

That's been the first poor performance since Reading perhaps? He's had a good run of about 10 games where on the whole we've been improving.

 

P15

W1

D5

L9

F18

A31

Win percentage 6%

[Foluwashola]

Why does everything have to be the manger's fault? Sissoko played like a f***ing mortal doylum today, will he be lambasted? 

 

Everything went against us today, lets move on.

 

Aye, let's move on, to the next game where we're more than likely going to be poor, I can't wait.

 

What a depressing freak you are, man.

 

We're in the QFs of the Europa League, as long as we stay in the Premier League I'm happy to just support the team. If the ref did his job today we would have came away with 3 points. Stop being such a whinging quim pls.