Alan Pardew

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

[Dr Venkman]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

Fucking hell man.

[Lotus]

Pardew is too conversational/open with the press, that's true.

 

I'm not convinced he's actually twigged that he's crap yet. When/if he does i think he'll stop talking.

[Guest neesy111]

Pardew is too conversational/open with the press, that's true.

 

I'm not convinced he's actually twigged that he's crap yet. When/if he does i think he'll stop talking.

 

Of course he has, if not he would had quit by now.  Any self respecting manager would had quit us by now, over the farce of this summer wit Kinnear coming in and then the lack of transfers.

[Lotus]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

Can both sides be on the defensive?

[Lotus]

Pardew is too conversational/open with the press, that's true.

 

I'm not convinced he's actually twigged that he's crap yet. When/if he does i think he'll stop talking.

 

Of course he has, if not he would had quit by now.  Any self respecting manager would had quit us by now, over the farce of this summer wit Kinnear coming in and then the lack of transfers.

 

I don't get the feeling you understood what i meant...

[Darth Crooks]

It's long past time people starting picking apart in detail everything those associated with Ashley and co. say and do tbh. Pragmatism has gained us fuck all and your average toon fan is probably far too patient given what has gone on.

[Guest neesy111]

Pardew is too conversational/open with the press, that's true.

 

I'm not convinced he's actually twigged that he's crap yet. When/if he does i think he'll stop talking.

 

Of course he has, if not he would had quit by now.  Any self respecting manager would had quit us by now, over the farce of this summer wit Kinnear coming in and then the lack of transfers.

 

I don't get the feeling you understood what i meant...

 

Ahh, apologies.

[Lotus]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

Can both sides be on the defensive?

 

I think we're both being passive aggressive

[BrettNUFC]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the fucking hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

[Dr Venkman]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

Can both sides be on the defensive?

 

[Beren]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the fucking hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

And ignore the last year?

[BrettNUFC]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the f***ing hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

And ignore the last year?

 

And ignore the year before? Yeah lets go back through this all again. All i'm saying before we start jumping to conclusions this season is a write off after one game, just have a bit of patience till Saturday and see if we get the 3 points or not?

[Dr Venkman]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the fucking hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

The fucking hell man is for you saying 'more appropriate opposition levels'. The bit I bolded. It speaks for itself, it's just more pathetic snivelling shite. Lie all you want about judging us on 1 game this weekend, we both know that won't be the case if we don't get a result.

[Rich]

If Pardew can't contain the words from spilling out of his mouth, I'd like him to talk about what we've been working on in training and what improvements we can expect to see going forward, after he's had a summer to gather his thoughts.

 

Although he thought we competed well on Monday, so maybe there's a reason he rarely talks about the football itself and is more comfortable talking around it.

 

“I thought Cheick Tiote looked more like his old self."

 

 

 

Comments from pre-Maritimo in November last year:

 

“Cheik Tiote looked like his old self, and I thought Vurnon Anita did well too."

 

Needs Philosoraptor.

[Guest icemanblue]

I don't think it defending him he is right, he ca't say anything else really so be best if he said nothing until it was positive news.

 

He can though. He can say "we are in need of players". He's f***ed if he doesn't get any players in to cover his inadequacy. He can play it a lot of different ways, perhaps be more bullish and less scared to upset Ashley. He's hardly going to sack him for it, he's survived last season.

 

Something like this, you mean?

 

"A big player coming in boosts the group as well as the fans," Pardew said.

 

"I'm not going to say something that I don't think is true and say, 'oh, it's not affecting them'.

 

"I think they'd like to see another striker come in the door.

 

"That's something that hopefully will be done before the window shuts.''

 

If hardly class the word "hopefully" as congruent with a bullish stance on transfers. It's the same as the summer in terms of tone and content of his quotes. He needs players, simple as that. If he's content to "go with what we've got" he's going to experience great difficulty this season.

 

Why is he saying he, and the players, want new players if he's happy to go with what he's got? The quote, that you posted, was:

 

“If it doesn’t happen (new signings), like everything in life we are going to have to get on with it, with what we have got".

 

Does that really read as if he's happy to go with what he's got?

 

On face value no, but it's not like we haven't been here before. These sort or quotes were prevalent last summer and preceded our lack of spending on transfers. He doesn't need to say anything, he should be banging the drum for new signings, stressing that it's  absolutely imperative. The press is really his only outlet to do this.

 

It just smacks of him preparing for the backlash to me.

 

So he should do it in the press, causing more disruption and unrest, rather than face to face with the owner? Which, I imagine, he was doing earlier in the week.

 

Vivid imagination.

 

Thanks. But, really, what do you think was discussed in the meeting? Not reckon transfers might have been on the agenda?

[Guest neesy111]

If Pardew can't contain the words from spilling out of his mouth, I'd like him to talk about what we've been working on in training and what improvements we can expect to see going forward, after he's had a summer to gather his thoughts.

 

Although he thought we competed well on Monday, so maybe there's a reason he rarely talks about the football itself and is more comfortable talking around it.

 

“I thought Cheick Tiote looked more like his old self."

 

 

 

Comments from post-Maritimo in November last year:

 

“Cheik Tiote looked like his old self, and I thought Vurnon Anita did well too."

 

Needs Philosoraptor.

 

Was that the game we were lucky to draw 1-1 at home?

[Guest icemanblue]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

I'd just like to make it clear that I don't believe I've ever made a post with multiple question marks, or multiple facepalm images. Thankfully, most people seem to have abonded the old facepalm, except for neesy.

[Dr Venkman]

I don't think it defending him he is right, he ca't say anything else really so be best if he said nothing until it was positive news.

 

He can though. He can say "we are in need of players". He's f***ed if he doesn't get any players in to cover his inadequacy. He can play it a lot of different ways, perhaps be more bullish and less scared to upset Ashley. He's hardly going to sack him for it, he's survived last season.

 

Something like this, you mean?

 

"A big player coming in boosts the group as well as the fans," Pardew said.

 

"I'm not going to say something that I don't think is true and say, 'oh, it's not affecting them'.

 

"I think they'd like to see another striker come in the door.

 

"That's something that hopefully will be done before the window shuts.''

 

If hardly class the word "hopefully" as congruent with a bullish stance on transfers. It's the same as the summer in terms of tone and content of his quotes. He needs players, simple as that. If he's content to "go with what we've got" he's going to experience great difficulty this season.

 

Why is he saying he, and the players, want new players if he's happy to go with what he's got? The quote, that you posted, was:

 

“If it doesn’t happen (new signings), like everything in life we are going to have to get on with it, with what we have got".

 

Does that really read as if he's happy to go with what he's got?

 

On face value no, but it's not like we haven't been here before. These sort or quotes were prevalent last summer and preceded our lack of spending on transfers. He doesn't need to say anything, he should be banging the drum for new signings, stressing that it's  absolutely imperative. The press is really his only outlet to do this.

 

It just smacks of him preparing for the backlash to me.

 

So he should do it in the press, causing more disruption and unrest, rather than face to face with the owner? Which, I imagine, he was doing earlier in the week.

 

Vivid imagination.

 

Thanks. But, really, what do you think was discussed in the meeting? Not reckon transfers might have been on the agenda?

 

Yeah, I'm sure they were discussed. How much pressure do you think he's putting on Ashley in private? I imagine next to none.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

I'd just like to make it clear that I don't believe I've ever made a post with multiple question marks, or multiple facepalm images.

 

Shit aye, me neither. How dare you Lotus, how dare you.

[Beren]

Can people not just look forward to West Ham and get behind them for a result, it's 2 days away yet we are still looking back at Monday ripping our side to shreds, negative 4 GD, bottom of the league, forget it, its over and done with, move on to the next game to see how we bounce back against more appropriate opposition levels.

 

f***ing hell man.

 

Saying judge us against West Ham Saturday evening, not Man City away? What's the f***ing hell man for? I would say that's a sensible thing to do? No? just me?

 

And ignore the last year?

 

And ignore the year before? Yeah lets go back through this all again. All i'm saying before we start jumping to conclusions this season is a write off after one game, just have a bit of patience till Saturday and see if we get the 3 points or not?

 

I'm not ignoring the year before. The 2011/12 season is a far less reliable sample period upon which to judge where are now than last season though. Especially since we have the same personnel as last season - not the same personnel as 2011/12. We also showed the same unwanted traits from last season in our first game (which have absolutely zilch to do with the oppositon) in our first game.

 

Far be it from me to take away your hope or tell children the tooth fairy doesn't exist.

[Guest icemanblue]

It's that i expect him to say we're not a good team, it's just that i don't agree with him. We're not a good team. Teamwork is apparent by it's absence.

 

Course, nobody is saying that what he's arguing is factually correct. It's just what he has to say.

 

Tbh, i had to put that in there or you or inochi would have straight in there asking me what else he was going to say with loads of question marks and maybe a facepalm or two. You've put me on the defensive

 

I'd just like to make it clear that I don't believe I've ever made a post with multiple question marks, or multiple facepalm images.

 

Shit aye, me neither. How dare you Lotus, how dare you.

 

It's just rude, Ian. This is where I draw the line.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Far be it from me to take away your hope or tell children the tooth fairy doesn't exist.

 

There's no hope at all? Say it isn't so.

[Guest icemanblue]

I don't think it defending him he is right, he ca't say anything else really so be best if he said nothing until it was positive news.

 

He can though. He can say "we are in need of players". He's f***ed if he doesn't get any players in to cover his inadequacy. He can play it a lot of different ways, perhaps be more bullish and less scared to upset Ashley. He's hardly going to sack him for it, he's survived last season.

 

Something like this, you mean?

 

"A big player coming in boosts the group as well as the fans," Pardew said.

 

"I'm not going to say something that I don't think is true and say, 'oh, it's not affecting them'.

 

"I think they'd like to see another striker come in the door.

 

"That's something that hopefully will be done before the window shuts.''

 

If hardly class the word "hopefully" as congruent with a bullish stance on transfers. It's the same as the summer in terms of tone and content of his quotes. He needs players, simple as that. If he's content to "go with what we've got" he's going to experience great difficulty this season.

 

Why is he saying he, and the players, want new players if he's happy to go with what he's got? The quote, that you posted, was:

 

“If it doesn’t happen (new signings), like everything in life we are going to have to get on with it, with what we have got".

 

Does that really read as if he's happy to go with what he's got?

 

On face value no, but it's not like we haven't been here before. These sort or quotes were prevalent last summer and preceded our lack of spending on transfers. He doesn't need to say anything, he should be banging the drum for new signings, stressing that it's  absolutely imperative. The press is really his only outlet to do this.

 

It just smacks of him preparing for the backlash to me.

 

So he should do it in the press, causing more disruption and unrest, rather than face to face with the owner? Which, I imagine, he was doing earlier in the week.

 

Vivid imagination.

 

Thanks. But, really, what do you think was discussed in the meeting? Not reckon transfers might have been on the agenda?

 

Yeah, I'm sure they were discussed. How much pressure do you think he's putting on Ashley in private? I imagine next to none.

 

I think he probably put his case across, like. That doesn't seem too far a stretch. May have even appeared somewhat desperate. Doubt he was the only one, either.