Nobody Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Look at how Everton completely destroyed us on Monday; there's just no way a Pardew team will ever do that to anyone, not even lower league opponents. It doesn't matter which players he puts on the pitch, they won't be coached good enough to have a decent gameplan anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure. Which is absolute horseshit. Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting...... Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of fuckers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Destroyed West Ham when we had super Leon Best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Look at how Everton completely destroyed us on Monday; there's just no way a Pardew team will ever do that to anyone, not even lower league opponents. It doesn't matter which players he puts on the pitch, they won't be coached good enough to have a decent gameplan anyway. Yep, and this is dawning on the players one by one. Going through the motions waiting for a change, just like the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure. Which is absolute horseshit. Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting...... Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see. Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Look at how Everton completely destroyed us on Monday; there's just no way a Pardew team will ever do that to anyone, not even lower league opponents. It doesn't matter which players he puts on the pitch, they won't be coached good enough to have a decent gameplan anyway. Not sure we'll ever play a team so scared of us they would play like Pardew set us up. Would be nice to smash someone wouldn't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure. Which is absolute horseshit. Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting...... Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see. Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th. Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking. You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure. Which is absolute horseshit. Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting...... Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see. Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th. Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking. You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time. The only teams to have more possession than us this season have been Man City and Aston Villa. We had 61% against Hull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 It's pretty obvious what's going on in this thread. Certain people love to make out that if you believe Pardew should be sacked then by default you advocate Ashley's tenure. Which is absolute horseshit. Hmm, so say someone like me who has wanted Pardew gone for over a year now. I back Ashley's tenure because i want to see better football, by a better manager, interesting...... Tbf if Pardew was sacked, it would be a worry about who Ashley appoints (JFK appoints). We can hardly get worse imo. I truly think we might go down under Pardew, if those players are still playing for him as some state they do, they aren't half a lazy bunch of f***ers. I'm quite sure that our players are in need of a different voice with different ideas, it's so clear to see. Over a year? Bit harsh he had just finished 5th. Aye, but the football wasn't a long term thing. It was football that could get figured out, and was last season. The perfect example was the Man Utd game at home (0-3). Ferguson knew Pardew would try the same 4-4-2, Demba and Shola tactic. He went for a narrow diamond and strangled us. That happen in many games, and that's where a clever manager changes things. Pardew can't as he's so limited in his thinking. You need possession now, and Pardew can't and doesn't know how to do that. We've seen it in little bits but never for any length of time. The only teams to have more possession than us this season have been Man City and Aston Villa. We had 61% against Hull. This season has been better on that front, and it would be daft to argue otherwise. But while we continue to conceded goals like we do, and not being a team that scores many, well not a good mix like. While our possession has been better in terms of percentage, we haven't looked that threatening. I said and others too, that is a good starting point though. Problem now is Pardew's mindset. He set us up to have more possession and we concede goals. I'm betting we go more defensive and give up more possession (like at Everton) and we will still concede goals. And it's the goals conceded that will kill us and relegate us if we're not careful. I think it's 88 in 50 league games (not sure if that includes the Everton game). And 3 wins in the last 22 away games is terrible, especially with our poor home form. I'm very worried while he stays, we are just going to get worse and worse as the players struggle under him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 You still haven't died Pardew? Disappointing weekend tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Jesus Wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? Your idol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? Pardew. With success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Aye, and the man at the top of the coaching setup certainly is a specialist in being rotten shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 4 days a week spent on negating the opposition too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players. http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players. http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg Aye but what use are they? Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 If we get lose and he gets the boot (quite likely imo) the thought of JFK in charge (at least as an interim manager) is scary stuff. Imagine him giving the TV interviews every week? "That cunt Ben Afree had a fucking mare and don't start me on that fucking French fucker Kebab. It was nowt to do with me as I am head and shoulders above the rest etc." A great laugh for the neutrals but not for us. Just hope MA has a better strategy than JFK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players. http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg Aye but what use are they? Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton. You must be a mackem, you've got to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I don't think they'll be giving JFK the job even in an interim role tbh. I really hope you are right. I wouldn't put it past them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I think we need a defensive coach to be honest. Who's covering that at the moment? I think you're right, and it's Pardew who set us up the defence. Part of the reason i think he's utter rubbish obviously. I don't think we need an Allardycesque backroom but at the moment we've got nobody. In the modern game you really need to bring in specialists. Our team photo has just about as many coaches/backroom staff as players. http://www.nufc.co.uk/javaImages/3/9e/0,,10278~12230147,00.jpg Aye but what use are they? Even the fitness coach - Santon was blowing out of his arse after about ten minutes against Everton. You must be a mackem, you've got to be. Que? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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