Ikon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Looks like Poyet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 barn pot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. I can't remember a single chance we created 1st half. First half we couldn't get to grips with the game at all, I still think we looked the more likely to win it in the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 No we didn't, utter s****. We were second to everything, and the amount of second balls they picked up where we were nowhere to be seen was criminal. You must not have watched the same game as there was no way we took contol after 10 minutes! you my friend are an absolute barn pot. Sorry, yeah Sunderland battered and raped us for the full 90, they deserved their win and we are worse than them and we will get relegated again, barn pot Sorry fella, you might think of yourself as some really positive upbeat fan, that can see good in any situation . . . . But to the rest of the living world you just come across as a complete demented mentalist. Your grasp on the game of football is so staggering it's untrue. There was nothing to take from that game on Sunday at all. We were never "in control" of that shite match at all, we did not pass it around well, we did not create chances of any kind of note. Now stop being so fucking weird and scaring the fuck out of the younger posters you loon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. You sober yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 The fact that we didn't fold in the second half against Liverpool surprised almost all of us, I'd imagine; but that sort of performance was a massive exception to the 'norm' that we've witnessed for months and months. The games where we've played with the level of passion we should see every week (doubly so against the mackems) stand out because they're so few and far between. But it was only the game before that where we didn't fold either against Cardiff and showed were would stand up and fight for the points if needed. Then game before that against Everton, I’m sure people expected it to be 5 or 6 after the first 45 yet there we were looking for an equaliser to make it 3-3 in the closing minutes. The group hasn’t showed like they don’t care or aren’t motivated in recent weeks and I don’t believe that was the case on Sunday, we just lacked ideas on how to break Sunderland down and that’s Pardew’s fault. Aye, but you could equally point to the games against West Ham and Fulham and say that if they'd had a decent striker each they'd have won those games-point being that most games or groups of games contain both good and bad. Imo, the overriding trend is towards 'bad'. I say 'bad', I mean 'shite', really. We'll have to agree to disagree cos I'm fecking sick of Pardew and the way we've been playing for a season and a quarter now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 To say we were in control of the game after 10 minutes, after any minutes is just utter, utter bollocks. It's new levels of creativity though, I'll give yous that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. I can't remember a single chance we created 1st half. First half we couldn't get to grips with the game at all, I still think we looked the more likely to win it in the second. Did we though Ian? We huffed and puffed a bit, but we never threatened the goal at all, to me we didn't look like winning because we created fuck all, and you need to create to score goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 No we didn't, utter s****. We were second to everything, and the amount of second balls they picked up where we were nowhere to be seen was criminal. You must not have watched the same game as there was no way we took contol after 10 minutes! you my friend are an absolute barn pot. Sorry, yeah Sunderland battered and raped us for the full 90, they deserved their win and we are worse than them and we will get relegated again, barn pot Sorry fella, you might think of yourself as some really positive upbeat fan, that can see good in any situation . . . . But to the rest of the living world you just come across as a complete demented mentalist. Your grasp on the game of football is so staggering it's untrue. There was nothing to take from that game on Sunday at all. We were never "in control" of that s**** match at all, we did not pass it around well, we did not create chances of any kind of note. Now stop being so f***ing weird and scaring the f*** out of the younger posters you loon. I though a draw was a fair result, so i'm a barn pot and my grasp of the game is staggering. Honestly man, some people act like we got an absolute hiding on Sunday when it was far from the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. I can't remember a single chance we created 1st half. First half we couldn't get to grips with the game at all, I still think we looked the more likely to win it in the second. Did we though Ian? We huffed and puffed a bit, but we never threatened the goal at all, to me we didn't look like winning because we created fuck all, and you need to create to score goals. We would maybe have been slightly lucky to actually win it, but we were definitely the better team IMO. A draw would probably have been the fairest result overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. You sober yet? You got your marbles back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think the animosity to numbers and pictures on here is getting silly. When SSN hoy up a manager's WLD record on screen, which they do following EVERY sacking, do the readers on N-O blanket them with emails about "lies, damn lies and statistics"? It's nowt more than a topic for discussion recognised globally as an interesting measure of how a manager did in his time. The corner stat is fucking atrocious and warrants discussion. Last season, being the team that hit more long balls than anyone else warranted discussion. The data on Alan Pardew's Newcastle isn't big enough to make ANY categoric claims whatsoever, but no-one's claiming something like Pardew reversing the number of long balls so this season we've hit less than 90% of the leagues teams makes him in any way a competent manager. It's just another interesting tidbit that clearly says something about a change in his and the teams methods. No-one (maybe CT?) thinks Marveaux should start because he got most assists last season, or that it should make him a big transfer target from other teams applying the moneyball approach. But it is something to note as interesting. To me at least. It warrants discussion, or if not discussion, then at least a mention. Generating discussion is surely what a forum is about, especially (for example) if a poster claims Pardew is still being a hoofball merchant. He's on his 5th album now and still knocking out 2 trackers. Where the fuck is the concept album?!! He's never been capable of it in any job he's ever had. Ashley doesn't want a concept album though, He wants one of them £2.99 90's compilations you get by the tills in Morrisons. It's like going to Sports Direct and complaining that they don't have any Gucci suits for sale and should sack the store manager for not stocking them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. I can't remember a single chance we created 1st half. First half we couldn't get to grips with the game at all, I still think we looked the more likely to win it in the second. Did we though Ian? We huffed and puffed a bit, but we never threatened the goal at all, to me we didn't look like winning because we created f*** all, and you need to create to score goals. We rarely do create anything because we never get any f.ucker in the box-again, down to Pardew being too scared to commit players forward in case we lose possession and concede on the break. How many times in any game do you see us flooding the box? Feck's sake-even a little trickle into the box would do, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Both teams actually looked better after we scored, but we still created absolute zilch apart from punts from 20/30 yards out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We were in control of the game, that's some of the biggest load of crap I've heard on this forum. I can't remember a single chance we created 1st half. First half we couldn't get to grips with the game at all, I still think we looked the more likely to win it in the second. Did we though Ian? We huffed and puffed a bit, but we never threatened the goal at all, to me we didn't look like winning because we created f*** all, and you need to create to score goals. We would maybe have been slightly lucky to actually win it, but we were definitely the better team IMO. A draw would probably have been the fairest result overall. FINALLY!!! HALLELUJAH!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 No we didn't, utter s****. We were second to everything, and the amount of second balls they picked up where we were nowhere to be seen was criminal. You must not have watched the same game as there was no way we took contol after 10 minutes! you my friend are an absolute barn pot. Sorry, yeah Sunderland battered and raped us for the full 90, they deserved their win and we are worse than them and we will get relegated again, barn pot Sorry fella, you might think of yourself as some really positive upbeat fan, that can see good in any situation . . . . But to the rest of the living world you just come across as a complete demented mentalist. Your grasp on the game of football is so staggering it's untrue. There was nothing to take from that game on Sunday at all. We were never "in control" of that s**** match at all, we did not pass it around well, we did not create chances of any kind of note. Now stop being so f***ing weird and scaring the f*** out of the younger posters you loon. I though a draw was a fair result, so i'm a barn pot and my grasp of the game is staggering. Honestly man, some people act like we got an absolute hiding on Sunday when it was far from the case. Yet we couldn't even manage that, even though in your tumbleweed addled mind we were in control from 10 minutes. If that was the case then the manager and the players deserve all the stick they are getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Controversially, I thought you were the better team and deserved to win it. Sunderland were all huff and puff and impressively closing the ball down, but once they started to get tired, I thought you looked significantly better than them. They might have looked stronger in some sense in that first half, but football is played over two halves, not one, and there was no way they were going to keep up that effort for 90 minutes. The fact that you managed to fashion no points out of that is a bit perplexing, to be honest. Although, in mitigation, you were beaten by a cracking shot. That sort of thing doesn't happen every week. I don't know about the throwing points away thing, mind, maybe that happens more often than you'd like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Controversially, I thought you were the better team and deserved to win it. Sunderland were all huff and puff and impressively closing the ball down, but once they started to get tired, I thought you looked significantly better than them. They might have looked stronger in some sense in that first half, but football is played over two halves, not one, and there was no way they were going to keep up that effort for 90 minutes. The fact that you managed to fashion no points out of that is a bit perplexing, to be honest. Although, in mitigation, you were beaten by a cracking shot. That sort of thing doesn't happen every week. I don't know about the throwing points away thing, mind, maybe that happens more often than you'd like. I agree with this assessment basically, it's always quite hard to decide who 'deserves' to win a game of football. What you can say is we were beaten by a cracking goal when we were on top. I would have taken a draw on the basis that we didn't create much and they dominated the first half hour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 We can have the ball all day and knock it sideways and backwards as much as we like, that wouldn't win a game against non league teams. We resorted to long strikes, as per, and if any goal was fortunate, it was ours. We were out-pardewed by a "bit if magic" ffs. The best team won on the day because they had more desire, more work rate, more movement and a more direct style of play. We take a fucking age to build up play, we can't break down sides because we give them all the time in the world to organise their side once we have the ball. Then while we're trying to break them down our static positioning means we don't get anywhere, inevitably they read one of our passes easily, dispossess us and hit us hard and fast. This happens every game, every fucking game, and yet we still plod along with the same tactic. Then in the games where we're out classed in possession we sit back, soak up pressure () and try and hit it forward as fast as possible to the one player past the 18 yard line. We've never perfected the fast pass and move counter attack. We're so predictable it's depressing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Controversially, I thought you were the better team and deserved to win it. Sunderland were all huff and puff and impressively closing the ball down, but once they started to get tired, I thought you looked significantly better than them. They might have looked stronger in some sense in that first half, but football is played over two halves, not one, and there was no way they were going to keep up that effort for 90 minutes. The fact that you managed to fashion no points out of that is a bit perplexing, to be honest. Although, in mitigation, you were beaten by a cracking shot. That sort of thing doesn't happen every week. I don't know about the throwing points away thing, mind, maybe that happens more often than you'd like. It was the first goal that beat us, we don't come back from being a goal behind, it's something we are incapable of doing. If we had grabbed an early goal they would have folded, instead we came out, started absolutely atrociously and went a goal behind. From then on, no matter how much huffing and puffing we put in we wouldn't have turned it around, we are a team incapable of coming back from behind. It's a problem from top to bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 It took poyet 2 games to get into his players minds sufficiently enough to get them playing like they knew what that particular game was all about. Pardew's had 3 years and even if you go from the last Derby, he's had 6 months...and we end up with a performance like that?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 It took poyet 2 games to get into his players minds sufficiently enough to get them playing like they knew what that particular game was all about. Pardew's had 3 years and even if you go from the last Derby, he's had 6 months...and we end up with a performance like that?? Took Di Canio 2 games too. It'd take the fucking Chuckle Brothers 2 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I don't really understand what's being argued. It was a game in which either a draw or a defeat would have been completely unacceptable, and the manager takes responsibility for that failure. That's as much as anyone needs to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I think the animosity to numbers and pictures on here is getting silly. When SSN hoy up a manager's WLD record on screen, which they do following EVERY sacking, do the readers on N-O blanket them with emails about "lies, damn lies and statistics"? It's nowt more than a topic for discussion recognised globally as an interesting measure of how a manager did in his time. The corner stat is f***ing atrocious and warrants discussion. Last season, being the team that hit more long balls than anyone else warranted discussion. The data on Alan Pardew's Newcastle isn't big enough to make ANY categoric claims whatsoever, but no-one's claiming something like Pardew reversing the number of long balls so this season we've hit less than 90% of the leagues teams makes him in any way a competent manager. It's just another interesting tidbit that clearly says something about a change in his and the teams methods. No-one (maybe CT?) thinks Marveaux should start because he got most assists last season, or that it should make him a big transfer target from other teams applying the moneyball approach. But it is something to note as interesting. To me at least. It warrants discussion, or if not discussion, then at least a mention. Generating discussion is surely what a forum is about, especially (for example) if a poster claims Pardew is still being a hoofball merchant. He's on his 5th album now and still knocking out 2 trackers. Where the f*** is the concept album?!! He's never been capable of it in any job he's ever had. Ashley doesn't want a concept album though, He wants one of them £2.99 90's compilations you get by the tills in Morrisons. It's like going to Sports Direct and complaining that they don't have any Gucci suits for sale and should sack the store manager for not stocking them. Is Pardew the store manager? Woeful analogy if so. You're right. A store manager gets to choose their staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Moody Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 I don't really understand what's being argued. It was a game in which either a draw or a defeat would have been completely unacceptable, and the manager takes responsibility for that failure. That's as much as anyone needs to know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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