madras Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 It won't change unless we stop getting results. As was stated pre-match, it's his usual rinse-and-repeat steps. Stick with something until we lose, then start again with something else. His current idea being a flat 4-4-2 featuring Shola. The flat 4-4-2 with Shola was fine in the first half, we created plenty of chances. Had some bad moments defensively mind. The problem in the second half wasn't the formation, it was that we stopped pressing, sat deep and invited pressure. I don't hate Pardew but I get totally p*ssed off when we get a lead and do this. Its ridiculous, has cost us points and we show no signs of changing it. was it a decision to do that today though, gouffran can't keep up the pressure for 90, cabaye's substitution was more fatigue than tactical and sissoko had been away aswell. do you think the plan is to sit so deep after taking a lead ? seemed like we ran out of legs more than anything tactical. Lost count of how many times I've read this post in the last three years. majority of the time you'd probably have had a point, not sure about today though. Even though the manager has admitted it afterwards? "We went out to protect it after half time. I put them in the wrong mode with the wrong words" That is how we play under Pardew. Always has been, always will be. plan due to the lack of legs perhaps, cabaye and gouffran looked shagged second half and remy not far behind. tactics dictated by circumstances maybe ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How's every other team manage to play for 90 minutes and not look 'shagged'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 He could have rotated a few players - the ones from mid-week internationals, if they were that fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I think Cabaye fucked it off today like, thought it was won (and was right). Sissoko and Remy played 90 mins between them for France aside IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Likelihood is as well, he'll end up Manager of the Month for November if we avoid defeat next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Still a useless twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Likelihood is as well, he'll end up Manager of the Month for November if we avoid defeat next week. Well the results will rightly say he deserves it. Performances maybe not but beating Chelsea and Tottenham will swing it. (if we do indeed avoid defeat v W.B.A.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 would have been more comfortable if Sissoko had taken his two chances & Cisse hadn't been flagged offside (which MOTD said he was onside) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Does he get credit for 3 set piece goals in the last 5 games? Startling improvement on last year. All 3 goals scored by 6"4 monsters as he explained as well...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 would have been more comfortable if Sissoko had taken his two chances & Cisse hadn't been flagged offside (which MOTD said he was onside) He was onside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Does he get credit for 3 set piece goals in the last 5 games? Startling improvement on last year. All 3 goals scored by 6"4 monsters as he explained as well...... Dont suppose they award it on performances, the results wil swing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Three wins in a row, let's try and enjoy it lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 would have been more comfortable if Sissoko had taken his two chances & Cisse hadn't been flagged offside (which MOTD said he was onside) While this is true it still doesn't excuse the ridiculous inviting Norwich on and inviting them back into the game instead of finishing them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 It takes a special kind of cautiousness to repeatedly sit on a lead when you've seen it blow up in your face so many times. The daft cunt doesn't even realise that if he set his team up the same way for 90 minutes it would generally make his job more comfortable. How many games have we won by 3+ goals under him in nearly 3 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 It takes a special kind of cautiousness to repeatedly sit on a lead when you've seen it blow up in your face so many times. The daft cunt doesn't even realise that if he set his team up the same way for 90 minutes it would generally make his job more comfortable. How many games have we won by 3+ goals under him in nearly 3 years? Well we haven't scored 3 in a game since March i think it is. I think we've only scored 3 or more only about a dozen times in a 100 odd games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 We beat West Ham 5-0 in his first season, Man Utd and Stoke 3-0 in his second, Wigan 3-0 in his 3rd. That's it. That is an incredible record, I've been watching us for 20 years and law of averages usually dictates that even a shite NUFC side will smash a few teams every season. It just shows how laughable it is that you have the same jokers on here time and time again saying it's just some strange quirk that we always appear to sit on a lead, that the players tire, etc. A 2 goal margin is generally as good as it gets and we defend it with our lives, compare that with the Keegan quotes that surfaced on here the other day from that West Ham match FFS and you'll see why people get fucked off with what they're seeing. TLDR: Alan Pardew sucks the vast majority of fun out of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 West Ham was under Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 West Ham was under Hughton. No it wasn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 EDIT: Nah, you're right. My bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How's every other team manage to play for 90 minutes and not look 'shagged'? There are always a few on here that will keep making excuses for Pardew's management...they cling to nurse for fear of something worse... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 How's every other team manage to play for 90 minutes and not look 'shagged'? There are always a few on here that will keep making excuses for Pardew's management...they cling to nurse for fear of something worse... The inability to notice very basic trends by some people on here is a real eye-opener. I'm not Stephen Fry or owt but I'm not thick enough to not see what's clearly happening in front of my own eyes. It was 2-0 at half time and I knew what our approach would be second half, and that the outcome would be to at best make the second half a non-event and win the game 2-0 and at worst end up drawing or losing the game. As it happens it was somewhere in between and we pretty much hung on against a poor side. We took a similar approach in our last game against a good side and had a world-class goalkeeping performance to thank for an excellent result. I knew we would have tried to shut up shop second half because I'm not an idiot. It happens every time we go into an interval with a lead under Pardew. Not once or twice, every time. But nah, the players decided to sit back or were tired or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I honestly think the players are tired and that's the reason why Pardew opted a negative 2nd half. It nearly backfired, he admitted the fault, that's it. The real problem isn't about this decision, it is about fitness. The reason why we always play 45 mins good football is because the players can't do it. Fitness problem has been always a major issue under Pardew to be honest, which is partly due to lack of squad depth and partl due to his training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Of the starting XI, Krul, Santon, MYM, Colo, Williamson, Tiote, Gouffran didn't play any minutes since the last league game 2 weeks ago. Sissoko (29 mins), Cabaye (90), Remy (61), Shola (63) weren't exactly bursting their guts over 2 international matches. How can tiredness be used as an excuse? It's tactical more than anything else. If you get your players to adopt a no-more-goals attitude they are obviously going to be mentally shot well before the final whistle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 I honestly think the players are tired and that's the reason why Pardew opted a negative 2nd half. It nearly backfired, he admitted the fault, that's it. The real problem isn't about this decision, it is about fitness. The reason why we always play 45 mins good football is because the players can't do it. Fitness problem has been always a major issue under Pardew to be honest, which is partly due to lack of squad depth and partl due to his training. Otherwise we would have went out and tried to beat them 4 or 5 nil. Yep. Honestly, nothing personal but I find the whole of your post completely astonishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 We beat West Ham 5-0 in his first season, Man Utd and Stoke 3-0 in his second, Wigan 3-0 in his 3rd. That's it. That is an incredible record, I've been watching us for 20 years and law of averages usually dictates that even a shite NUFC side will smash a few teams every season. It just shows how laughable it is that you have the same jokers on here time and time again saying it's just some strange quirk that we always appear to sit on a lead, that the players tire, etc. A 2 goal margin is generally as good as it gets and we defend it with our lives, compare that with the Keegan quotes that surfaced on here the other day from that West Ham match FFS and you'll see why people get fucked off with what they're seeing. TLDR: Alan Pardew sucks the vast majority of fun out of football. see i could probably live with what he does, if he was any good at it, but he's terrible and we're always hanging on to scrape the win if he had some quality tactical masterplan and we just shut games down professionally and coasted to the 2-0 then i could see the logic, but it's nothing like that it's just so shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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