Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Cisse isn't playing s***, he's unlucky. Gotcha. Couldn't agree more mate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We certainly weren't lucky on Saturday, Norwich were shit, and second half was like a training session. Surprised they even scored tbh but even when they did you couldn't see them doing it again. Thought Pardew had his team selection and tactics spot on for 45 minutes, but then his decisions in the second half with subs and tactics was poor. Was still all a bit of a stroll though simply for how bad Norwich were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 KI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were shit. The two are connected, not separate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Our strikers are prepared (all praise be to Pardew) when the opportunity arises, other teams' strikers not so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spudil Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Considering some of the things certain posters on here have trouble grasping... an argument about a concept as complex and old as luck is going to be excruciating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were s***. The two are connected, not separate. So now we were lucky against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich. Sure everytime we get a good result we are just ruled as lucky. We must be second in the form table on sheer luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were s***. The two are connected, not separate. So now we were lucky against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich. Sure everytime we get a good result we are just ruled as lucky. We must be second in the form table on sheer luck. In the last of those 3 we were. I wouldn't include Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were s***. The two are connected, not separate. So now we were lucky against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich. Sure everytime we get a good result we are just ruled as lucky. We must be second in the form table on sheer luck. In the last of those 3 we were. I wouldn't include Liverpool. Each to their own. I was never worried on Saturday, thought we were looking more likely to score a 3rd on the break than Norwich scoring again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Of course you weren't. That's who you are, regardless of what actually happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were s***. The two are connected, not separate. So now we were lucky against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich. Sure everytime we get a good result we are just ruled as lucky. We must be second in the form table on sheer luck. In the last of those 3 we were. I wouldn't include Liverpool. We were lucky against Chelsea? In what way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Pards gets on the karaoke and gives it the full on Pharrell before every game. Working a treat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 We were lucky that Norwich were s***. The two are connected, not separate. So now we were lucky against Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and Norwich. Sure everytime we get a good result we are just ruled as lucky. We must be second in the form table on sheer luck. In the last of those 3 we were. I wouldn't include Liverpool. We were lucky against Chelsea? In what way? Do I really have to explain myself again? Can't we just move on? I feel like I'm being bullied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yeah, that's hilarious. Brilliant stuff. I wasn't aware that you'd explained how we were lucky a first time, to be honest. I'd be very interested to read it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Pards gets on the karaoke and gives it the full on Pharrell before every game. Working a treat. I can actually imagine him doing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Of course you weren't. That's who you are, regardless of what actually happens. What was actually happening on Saturday? Didn't even think the ground felt that particularly tense compared to what it is normally. Norwich weren't creating anything really to make us worried. We were looking dangerous on the break. Can only really remember one close call but might have just been my angle because Krul seemed very assured as soon as the cross came in and let it go for a goal kick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yeah, that's hilarious. Brilliant stuff. I wasn't aware that you'd explained how we were lucky a first time, to be honest. I'd be very interested to read it. Thanks, but I wasn't trying to be funny like. I've explained it on numerous occassions to different people, you included (which is why I feel like you're bringing this up just to try and provoke a reaction from me!) Saying as you've asked though, I'll indulge you. Basically, Chelsea were toothless and I felt like we relied upon that too much. Chelsea being toothless, or Spurs being toothless is luck when they're presented with clear cut opportunity after clear cut opportunity. You could probably say that we rode our luck against Chelsea and relied upon it against Spurs. Relying upon that, or riding your luck over a long period of time isn't a game plan, it's a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Krul made loads of saves against Spurs, that's not luck either. Anyway, this is a crazy debate. Every victory in sport is in some way down to your opponent either being worse or not playing to their potential in some way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Luck is striking a ball that hits a rouge beach ball, and deflects into the net. Our GK having a great day, or their striker not having a great day is not luck. This is the very basis of a football game. 11 players, playing better than another 11 players. Im sorry, but that is just moronic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Of course you weren't. That's who you are, regardless of what actually happens. What was actually happening on Saturday? Didn't even think the ground felt that particularly tense compared to what it is normally. Norwich weren't creating anything really to make us worried. We were looking dangerous on the break. Can only really remember one close call but might have just been my angle because Krul seemed very assured as soon as the cross came in and let it go for a goal kick. The clue is in your post. Why are we playing on the break...at home...to Norwich? Why are we allowing them the opportunity to use the ball as they see fit. Aye, they're a poor team and will miss chances, but why account for that when you can erradicate it altogether by dominating possession. There was an excuse when it was against better teams, or when we were away. But at home to Norwich? No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Krul made loads of saves against Spurs, that's not luck either. Anyway, this is a crazy debate. Every victory in sport is in some way down to your opponent either being worse or not playing to their potential in some way. Would you rather we stopped debating it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Luck is striking a ball that hits a rouge beach ball, and deflects into the net. Our GK having a great day, or their striker not having a great day is not luck. This is the very basis of a football game. 11 players, playing better than another 11 players. Im sorry, but that is just moronic. This is kind of what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Football is a game of mistakes. If no one made mistakes, all matches would end in draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I count luck as bad deflections, shitty refereeing decisions, that sort of thing. The sort of thing neither team can control. Never heard actual player/team performances described as lucky/unlucky before. We've been the victim of the former far more than the recipient these past few yerars IYAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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