Dokko Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 So, about that forum bet... what are the odds on Pardew not getting sacked? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Ashley's a very cunning and shrewd businessman if he has control of something. He probably agreed to a heavy incentivized contract with multiple get-outs from either party and clauses to terminate with minimal fee payout to Pardew and his staff. Ashley may make some absolute bone-headed decisions, but he and his legal team would have protected the club from an 8 year payout man. 1-2 years are probably what I'd guess would be the maximum. Just read that article posted after I wrote this btw. I just can't see that holding any weight man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I just cannot see Mike Ashley of all people going "well you have had one good season, I'm going to give you a ludicrous contract when you would clearly accept a lot shorter one and leave myself having to pay a s*** load of money if it doesn't work out". Not a big believer in ITK but the stuff being banded about previously makes a lot more sense. Totally. Ashley clearly held all the cards. Also, it says he gets paid 1.5mil a year - thought he was meant to be on a fraction of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2320978/Mike-Ashley-pay-Alan-Pardew-10m-sacks-Newcastle-manager-year-deal-Charles-Sale.html The deal works both ways, so Newcastle would be looking for a Jose Mourinho-style release clause of more than £10m should another club want to poach the former West Ham boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Don't believe it personally, Ashley doesn't want to give big pay offs to out going managers and then proceeds to agree to doing just that. Doesn't add up to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The reports from when he signed the contract said the same thing (severance would be full contract). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The reports from when he signed the contract said the same thing (severance would be full contract). Also reports of him being able to be released for a years wages, quite a few. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 No way Ashley is that stupid. No way. Is there? What's the motivation for Ashley to put himself in that position? Could he really be fucking thick enough to believe that Pardew would be targeted by Man U or Chelsea or some shit? Sincerely hope the dismal shitstain is sent packing the minute the final whistle blows against Arsenal. I still think he stays if we stay up though, disgracefully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 http://bet.unibet.com/sites/default/files/styles/story_page/public/field/image/pardew_beard_0.jpg http://i.minus.com/ibkG3mN1LrSB3X.gif The face of someone who stands to gain 10m in a payoff? Don't think so. Ashley is a businessman. He won't be so stupid as to put himself in the same situation as he did with sacking Souness, especially his philosophy is not to reward failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Right. Who wants a fight the neet then? http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/300W/f/2010/296/b/f/boxing_horse_ulrich_by_koliss-d31c0qg.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Ashley knows fuck all about football, maybe he was thinking that he could sell sell his manager like any player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 To give Pardew that sort of contract would be really dumb. Almost as dumb as buying the club without doing due diligence and not realising there was over £100m more debt than aticipated. You'd think our "shrewd" billionaire owner couldn't be that dumb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Not a chance it will be a full pay off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew gets paid a year of his contract. As do all of the backroom staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew gets paid a year of his contract. As do all of the backroom staff. Getting fed up of trying to explain this to people. Is there any concrete source? Even journalists having a laugh about it. A few weeks ago, I made an appearance on a web-TV football talk-show to explain our demise this season. One of the first questions that was directed at me was "HOW expensive will this be? What the fuck were you thinking?". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Maybe Ashley just wanted to not worry about the manager for 8 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew gets paid a year of his contract. As do all of the backroom staff. Getting fed up of trying to explain this to people. Is there any concrete source? Even journalists having a laugh about it. A few weeks ago, I made an appearance on a web-TV football talk-show to explain our demise this season. One of the first questions that was directed at me was "HOW expensive will this be? What the fuck were you thinking?". Unprofessional language to be using on a web-TV football talk-show IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew gets paid a year of his contract. As do all of the backroom staff. Getting fed up of trying to explain this to people. Is there any concrete source? Even journalists having a laugh about it. A few weeks ago, I made an appearance on a web-TV football talk-show to explain our demise this season. One of the first questions that was directed at me was "HOW expensive will this be? What the fuck were you thinking?". Yes I have a source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Pardew gets paid a year of his contract. As do all of the backroom staff. Getting fed up of trying to explain this to people. Is there any concrete source? Even journalists having a laugh about it. A few weeks ago, I made an appearance on a web-TV football talk-show to explain our demise this season. One of the first questions that was directed at me was "HOW expensive will this be? What the f*** were you thinking?". Unprofessional language to be using on a web-TV football talk-show IMO I punched him square in the face. It's how Scando's roll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Would be proud to see him managing Man Utd TBH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Would be proud to see him managing Man Utd TBH. I'd be fucking delighted to see him mismanaging Man Utd. They can have all the backroom staff as well if they wan't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Maybe Ashley just wanted to not worry about the manager for 8 years. When he was given the contract we were still basking in the fact we'd gone into a season being tipped for relegation and stunned everyone by challenging for champions league places while doing stuff like beating Man U 3-0 in the process (fucking hell, remember that entire other lifetime? ) Some pundits were, with a straight face, talking about Pardew going to Liverpool or one day being England manager. At the very least there was an impression that the teams around us were coverting him. I don't think Ashley gave him an 8 year contract because he wanted him here until 2020. I think he was hoping for a big compensation package if another team wanted him. Just treating him like a player basically - find someone cheap, take a punt, increase their value and cash in if they move on. If he could con a desperate Liverpool out of £35m for a player, surely he could make a fair wedge from a manager? Of course the problem is that the wheels have fallen off. We just have to hope Ashley wasn't made over confident by the buzz around Pardew last season and took this possibility into account enough when drawing up the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejaxer Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Would be proud to see him managing Man Utd TBH. Deserves the job imo. Should take Jonas and Shola with him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I hope, that all the fuss (deserved mind) about Ferguson and his legacy over the next few days will not cause a reassessment of what we need to do managerial wise on the boards behalf. Already on SSN they were talking about the early few years where he was so close to the sack etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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