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Don't want Martinez at all. Has to be better options than that perennial relegation flirter

 

Well you can't do much more than that with Wigan can you?

 

Don't really agree. Swansea, Norwich, had just as crap squads but managed to finish higher.  For people raving about the way he has his team playing the game, then he should probably take a bit of a look at it as it is clearly not working.  They have been in and around the relegation zone the whole time he was there.

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Cronky

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Hope is draining by the minute, but if he is to stay, as I suspect, there has to be a decent financial backing this summer, possibly a new number 2 and a few new coaches employed. If we're keeping him he needs retraining and new ideas as currently he seems to have hit a brick wall and can't take us further.

 

I don't really understand this line of thinking tbh. What's the point in bringing in new coaches if the manager doesn't understand that type of football? The solution is simple for me:

 

a) Sack the manager and bring one to suit the players being recruited by Carr.

b) Sack the scout and buy players suited to Pardew, e.g. Carroll.

 

The current hotch potch solution is exactly the reason we have ended up fighting relegation with players looking baffled and eventually worn down. Ashley has to make a decision now, or he can end up making it at Xmas by which time another season will be down the drain.

 

There's certainly something hotch-potch about our team-building, but I'm not sure that it's down to a lack of co-ordination or communication between Pardew and Carr. I don't believe that anyone gets signed against Pardew's will.

 

What I wonder about is whether Pardew places too much faith in his own coaching and motivational skills, and isn't sufficiently accepting of players' strengths and limitations as he finds them. As an example, I don't think Tiote is ever going to be a great passer of the ball, but a recent statement by Pardew suggested that he was hoping to bring that out in him.

 

Similarly, there were early indications that Cisse - Ba was not going to work as a partnership, which again Pardew seemed to think he could work through. He also ignored the personal tensions that could develop when he publicly favoured Ba as first choice Number 9.

 

A manager has to accept that there are some situations which can't be worked with beyond a certain point.

 

I can't think of a bigger indictment of a manager than he doesn't understand a player's limitations or how they fit into a team alongside other team members.

 

For sure, that’s fundamental. Which makes me wonder what’s gone on, because despite what gets said, Pardew isn’t stupid, he can assess players and he does understand tactics. In fact, the problem may be that he relies too much on tactics and what he sees as his ability to get more out of individuals.  I wonder whether he gets bogged down in detail and misses the bigger picture. He over-estimates what he, or indeed any coach, can do.

 

What might help is if he has a coach around him who he will really listen to. It’s a good idea to have local men like Carver and Stone in the team, but we may also need something else.

 

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Unlucky Luque

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What's Girard like?

 

He has worked with a couple of our players already, Debuchy and Cabaye to name a few. And if im not mistaken, a couple of the other french players aswell during his time as a national coach. The Under 21's i think. Good attacking football, got Lille to win the league and to the CL. Wants to manage in the PL. (more or less begging for a job in the PL if you believe the papers)

 

That's Rudi Garcia

Isn't Gerard just exactly the same but with Montpellier?

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Don't want Martinez at all. Has to be better options than that perennial relegation flirter

 

Well you can't do much more than that with Wigan can you?

 

Bruce did.

 

Sssh. This forum has no place for such reason and fact.

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toon25

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Don't think the recent sacking of managers will work in our favour (in getting shot of this twat). Can see Ashley and Dekka 'bucking the trend' and favouring stability. Just hope to fuck someone in that meeting has got the statistics to prove we were shit.

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What's Girard like?

 

He has worked with a couple of our players already, Debuchy and Cabaye to name a few. And if im not mistaken, a couple of the other french players aswell during his time as a national coach. The Under 21's i think. Good attacking football, got Lille to win the league and to the CL. Wants to manage in the PL. (more or less begging for a job in the PL if you believe the papers)

 

That's Rudi Garcia

Isn't Gerard just exactly the same but with Montpellier?

 

Kinda but Girard has worked with Franch national team at all youth levels and a big part of why they won the WC in 98 and the Euros in 2000 behind the scenes.

 

Didn't really work has a first team manager till Montpellier but youth coaching and behind the scenes stuff.

 

 

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Benitez would be very interested but it depends on a) getting rid of Pardew and b) him not going to Napoli/PSG. It's looking more unlikely by the day, unfortunately.

 

I'd much rather have a manager who would see us as a step-up, rather than a step-down.

 

Aye, that's always worked in the past.

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Begbie

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AP The most tactically inept manager in the premier league. :frantic:

 

Please step forward Mr. Bruce.

 

Should be a vote, who is most tactically inept manager: Pardew, Bruce, Souness, Kinnear

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There are only two jobs in England that are really feasible for Rafa --- Everton and Newcastle. Given Rafa's Liverpool background, we actually got the highest chance.

 

Sad that those 2 cunts won't sack Pardew.

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To be honest, if there is a bid over 25m for Cabaye, we should sell him. 

 

Why ?

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thenige

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To be honest, if there is a bid over 25m for Cabaye, we should sell him. 

 

Why ?

 

Because that's a silly amount of money for a player who is 27 and coming off a pretty average season.

 

Still love the bloke though.  :smitten:

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Oh dear!

 

http://www.nufcblog.com/2013/05/22/newcastle-are-top-of-the-long-ball-league/

 

 

Here’s the list of long passes attempted last season in the Premier League by each team:

 

Newcastle 2,283

Fulham 2,131

Wigan 2,047

Everton 2,042

Liverpool 2,041

Tottenham 2,028

Swansea 2,024

Chelsea 2,003

Norwich 1,995

Stoke 1,989

Man United 1,968

Sunderland 1,952

West Ham 1,901

Aston Villa 1,893

West Brom 1,889

Reading 1,855

Southampton 1,826

QPR 1,800

Arsenal 1,755

Man City 1,611

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To be honest, if there is a bid over 25m for Cabaye, we should sell him. 

 

Why ?

 

To reinvest in several other players. Just like we bought Cabaye, Santon and Cisse with Carroll's money.

 

Would be a massive miss, but that's the way to get stronger and stronger without breaking the bank.

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