jdckelly Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Am I the only one that doesn't subscribe to the often floated theory of: "No manager will work under Ashley/Kinnear"? depends, some will work under Ashley, considerably less (ie next to none imho and no one of any actual talent) will agree to work with Kinnear in charge of "recruitment" Most teams on the continent use a DOF system though and i doubt many on the continent have ever heard the name Joe Kinnear. I just feel it's overblown that's all. A manager can further both his career and his bank balance at NUFC. they can do some basic research before taking the role and discover what a moron he is and change their mind, or just spend 5 minutes talking to him to find out. And Ashley won't appoint any continental manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Am I the only one that doesn't subscribe to the often floated theory of: "No manager will work under Ashley/Kinnear"? depends, some will work under Ashley, considerably less (ie next to none imho and no one of any actual talent) will agree to work with Kinnear in charge of "recruitment" Most teams on the continent use a DOF system though and i doubt many on the continent have ever heard the name Joe Kinnear. I just feel it's overblown that's all. A manager can further both his career and his bank balance at NUFC. they can do some basic research before taking the role and discover what a moron he is and change their mind, or just spend 5 minutes talking to him to find out. And Ashley won't appoint any continental manager. How would you happen to know this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I don't see anybody who is proven to be good coming to work for JFK. It's an oxymoron. Forget it, it's not going to happen. That's why I think the most likely 'best case' is an unknown foreigner, another Ashley gamble. It's obviously more likely to be a Poyet or Di Matteo, of course, but to me that wouldn't be the best outcome. I'd take your hand off for Poyet or Di Matteo, at least I could regain some hope that we won't be shite by default. What makes you think they'd be 'that' much better than AP though? What have they proven elsewhere to give you that confidence? Edit - and forget about the CL victory for RDM. I had just as much to do with that as he did. Well Chelsea were quite a rugged team under Jose, what did stand out for me about Di Matteo was that they started playing very fluid football when he had them for a while. Other than that i agree he's untested. but no doubt at all in my mind that both he and Poyet would get us playing with better shape and movement than Pardew, just by looking at the teams they've already managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Chelsea have mostly been playing fluid football since Ancelotti took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Played some lovely stuff under Tommy Docherty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I seem to remember that West Brom fans were not impressed with Di Matteo at the end and were pleased he was sacked. And they say he just let the Chelsea players get on with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Am I the only one that doesn't subscribe to the often floated theory of: "No manager will work under Ashley/Kinnear"? depends, some will work under Ashley, considerably less (ie next to none imho and no one of any actual talent) will agree to work with Kinnear in charge of "recruitment" Most teams on the continent use a DOF system though and i doubt many on the continent have ever heard the name Joe Kinnear. I just feel it's overblown that's all. A manager can further both his career and his bank balance at NUFC. they can do some basic research before taking the role and discover what a moron he is and change their mind, or just spend 5 minutes talking to him to find out. And Ashley won't appoint any continental manager. How would you happen to know this? precedent he hasn't before and its hard to see him starting now, it will either be JFK or one of JFK's mates Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Anyone who can down 4 pints of Carling in a minute can have the job. Hasn't been done - so he hasn't been sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Doesn't sound that hard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Am I the only one that doesn't subscribe to the often floated theory of: "No manager will work under Ashley/Kinnear"? depends, some will work under Ashley, considerably less (ie next to none imho and no one of any actual talent) will agree to work with Kinnear in charge of "recruitment" Most teams on the continent use a DOF system though and i doubt many on the continent have ever heard the name Joe Kinnear. I just feel it's overblown that's all. A manager can further both his career and his bank balance at NUFC. they can do some basic research before taking the role and discover what a moron he is and change their mind, or just spend 5 minutes talking to him to find out. And Ashley won't appoint any continental manager. How would you happen to know this? precedent he hasn't before and its hard to see him starting now, it will either be JFK or one of JFK's mates It's far from certain IMO but I can see your point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What makes people so confident that Ashley would bin Kinnear? He obviously believes in the deluded old cunt to involve him (twice) in the first place. Nobody else in world football would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What makes people so confident that Ashley would bin Kinnear? He obviously believes in the deluded old cunt to involve him (twice) in the first place. Nobody else in world football would. Probably still has that managers contract in his draw somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilligaf Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What makes people so confident that Ashley would bin Kinnear? He obviously believes in the deluded old cunt to involve him (twice) in the first place. Nobody else in world football would. Im more expecting/hoping for a different kind of termination Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheGreatBeardo Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 What makes people so confident that Ashley would bin Kinnear? He obviously believes in the deluded old c*** to involve him (twice) in the first place. Nobody else in world football would. Is it really JK's ability he believes in though? Or does he value loyalty over ability? I kind of got the impression that there was a possibility that Mike thought Pards and Dekka were a bit too close, maybe JK is just there because mike thinks he can trust him to be dutiful. That's my hope anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Pardew has been closer to a cup directing a poor team than anyone we've a chance with. This is why he's here. This is why we will all be bathing in the blood of our enemies come May. /slightly drunk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Feels like the pressure is really mounting up. All this talk of him making massive changes sound like a man who's run out of ideas and, as a consequence, patience. It is hard with the mystery in football, perhaps the players just aren't listening to him, hence why we get Jekyll/Hyde performances like Everton and Villa. Problem is, that's even worse than him being tactically crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Pardew has been closer to a cup directing a poor team than anyone we've a chance with. This is why he's here. This is why we will all be bathing in the blood of our enemies come May. /slightly drunk. Was with you all the way and looking forward to May - but that last bit just killed my optimism tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I would be very surprised if many of our fans believed that Pardew offered to resign, he hasn't got the integrity to do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm not particularly good at my job. Might go in and offer to resign tomorrow #IntegrityPoints Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I think we could all benefit from been slightly drunk tbh Supporting is hard sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm not particularly good at my job. Might go in and offer to resign tomorrow #IntegrityPoints Hardly unexpected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm not particularly good at my job. Might go in and offer to resign tomorrow #IntegrityPoints Hardly unexpected. Oh. No. She. Di'int. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm not particularly good at my job. Might go in and offer to resign tomorrow #IntegrityPoints Aye, that's totally the same thing. Come on man, that's just point scoring to a ridiculous degree. Are you saying you held no resentment towards the likes of Souness who held on for their pay-off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm not particularly good at my job. Might go in and offer to resign tomorrow #IntegrityPoints Aye, that's totally the same thing. Come on man, that's just point scoring to a ridiculous degree. Are you saying you held no resentment towards the likes of Souness who held on for their pay-off? Quite similar like. Who on earth is going to resign from the best job they're ever likely to get man? Resented Souness for being a shite manager, can't remember being concerned about pay-offs etc. We were the daft bastards who gave him the contract. Hate Pardew, fair enough, but be realistic. Pardew is hardly going to say to his wife, 'aye, soz pet for walking away from that outrageous wage, but mick on the Internet questioned my integrity'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Quite similar like. Who on earth is going to resign from the best job they're ever likely to get man? Resented Souness for being a s**** manager, can't remember being concerned about pay-offs etc. We were the daft b******s who gave him the contract. Hate Pardew, fair enough, but be realistic. Pardew is hardly going to say to his wife, 'aye, soz pet for walking away from that outrageous wage, but mick on the Internet questioned my integrity'. Does anybody expect Pardew to resign because of something posted on here? Have a word with yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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