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Fantastic gesture from Stoke.

 

True but if they are all official coaches i cant see a big take up on them. Dry busses arent very popular even though for some of the idiots going away with us it should be compulsary

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As summed up on a RAWK - a french Harry Kewell. For the money he would cost no thanks, he is at his level with Newcastle.

 

Guess which of our players he is talking about, and don't stop reading after the first sentence. It's tempting, I know.

 

 

Franck Dumas?

 

Close.

 

Hatem.

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From another forum:

 

As summed up on a RAWK - a french Harry Kewell. For the money he would cost no thanks, he is at his level with Newcastle.

 

Guess which of our players he is talking about, and don't stop reading after the first sentence. It's tempting, I know.

 

 

Franck Dumas?

 

Close.

 

Hatem.

 

:lol:

 

Fucking lol.

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Over 60 years ago Newcastle United crossed the Atlantic to take advantage of the booming interest in football. The fog-delayed liner The Queen Mary arrived in Manhattan on a muggy afternoon in May 1949 after a six-day voyage from Southampton. On board in blue club blazers were the Newcastle United squad, including captain and half-back Joe Harvey, goalkeeper Jack Fairbrother and centre-forward Jackie Milburn.

 

They were embarking on a 15,000-mile summer tour of the US and Canada that would crisscross the continent from New York to Vancouver, riding an unprecedented wave of football enthusiasm and scoring a remarkable number of goals. The tour coincided with what newspapers were calling a North American "soccer boom", driven by the post-war arrival of many immigrants whose national game was football.

 

Newcastle were welcomed with great excitement. The papers eulogised the club and their star player. "Newcastle United is a magic name, a name forever in lights," said the Winnipeg Free Press. "Jackie Milburn, a pit electrician and the club's present centre-forward, is considered the fastest player in English soccer and is of international class."

 

But Milburn almost hadn't made it onboard the Queen Mary. He had been selected for an England tour of Europe and the FA initially refused to release him. They also refused permission for Newcastle to play their two highest-profile matches of the tour, against IFK Gothenburg in Toronto and New York. That clearance had still not been granted by the time the team arrived in New York. However, "after some transatlantic phoning, things were straightened out".

 

A little over 24 hours later, on May 19, having "hardly had a breathing spell" since crossing the Atlantic, Newcastle beat the Montreal All Stars 4-1, with Milburn scoring twice. The match was held at night and was the first time Newcastle had ever played under floodlights.

 

"The footwork of these Britishers on the attack, their unbelievable ball control, was something at which to marvel," reported the Montreal Herald. "What Willie Hoppe does with a billiard ball, these Britishers did with the white soccer ball."

 

Milburn scored four in the next match, an 8-2 win over the Ontario All Stars in Toronto, before Newcastle took a long trip west to Saskatoon to thrash the Saskatchewan All Stars 13-2. The most remarkable scoreline of the tour was achieved against the Alberta FA All Stars in Edmonton. Newcastle were 5-0 up at half-time and eventually won 16-2 – the biggest win in the club's history. Milburn hit six goals and Chilean forward George Robledo scored five. Teams from British Columbia, Winnipeg and Washington State were subsequently defeated in similar style.

 

Newcastle's players spent their free time sightseeing and playing golf, while reporters buzzed around them. "We're having a great time, and you are treating us like princes instead of soccer players," manager George Martin said.

 

Accompanying the team was the chairman's niece, Evelyn Mathewson. Asked if she attended all of Newcastle's matches, she replied with a smile: "Yes I do. I never miss one. I'm what you call over here a 'red-hot football fan', only I don't chew gum or eat peanuts."

 

In another article, under the headline "Player's Life Not All Peaches, Cream", the Free Press revealed that Newcastle's players were being paid around $40 per week: "This compares with the $90,000 handed out by the New York Yankees for the services of outfielder Joe DiMaggio this year."

 

Back on the field, Newcastle returned to Toronto for the first match against IFK Gothenburg. Extra bleachers were added in anticipation of a record crowd, and more than 22,000 turned up to watch what was billed as "the first international soccer game ever to be played in Canada". Milburn scored a hat-trick and Newcastle won 4-0.

 

The final match of the tour was played on Randall's Island in New York on June 19 as part of a much-publicised double-header. A Scottish international XI defeated a US XI 4-0, then Newcastle beat IFK 3-0, with Milburn scoring another two goals.

 

Milburn had scored 31 goals in 31 days, having netted in all 10 matches, while Robledo scored 19 goals. Newcastle's overall tour record was: played 10, won 10, scored 78.

 

The team – regarded by many as Newcastle's greatest ever – went on to win the FA Cup in 1951, 1952 and 1955, with Milburn scoring in two finals. Milburn was recalled by England in October 1949 and scored a hat-trick against Wales. However, he never became an England regular and was an unused squad member when the team lost 1-0 to the US – belatedly enjoying their brief "soccer boom" – at the World Cup finals in 1950.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2013/jul/18/newcastle-american-tour-summer-1949

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Over 60 years ago Newcastle United crossed the Atlantic to take advantage of the booming interest in football. The fog-delayed liner The Queen Mary arrived in Manhattan on a muggy afternoon in May 1949 after a six-day voyage from Southampton. On board in blue club blazers were the Newcastle United squad, including captain and half-back Joe Harvey, goalkeeper Jack Fairbrother and centre-forward Jackie Milburn.

 

They were embarking on a 15,000-mile summer tour of the US and Canada that would crisscross the continent from New York to Vancouver, riding an unprecedented wave of football enthusiasm and scoring a remarkable number of goals. The tour coincided with what newspapers were calling a North American "soccer boom", driven by the post-war arrival of many immigrants whose national game was football.

 

Newcastle were welcomed with great excitement. The papers eulogised the club and their star player. "Newcastle United is a magic name, a name forever in lights," said the Winnipeg Free Press. "Jackie Milburn, a pit electrician and the club's present centre-forward, is considered the fastest player in English soccer and is of international class."

 

But Milburn almost hadn't made it onboard the Queen Mary. He had been selected for an England tour of Europe and the FA initially refused to release him. They also refused permission for Newcastle to play their two highest-profile matches of the tour, against IFK Gothenburg in Toronto and New York. That clearance had still not been granted by the time the team arrived in New York. However, "after some transatlantic phoning, things were straightened out".

 

A little over 24 hours later, on May 19, having "hardly had a breathing spell" since crossing the Atlantic, Newcastle beat the Montreal All Stars 4-1, with Milburn scoring twice. The match was held at night and was the first time Newcastle had ever played under floodlights.

 

"The footwork of these Britishers on the attack, their unbelievable ball control, was something at which to marvel," reported the Montreal Herald. "What Willie Hoppe does with a billiard ball, these Britishers did with the white soccer ball."

 

Milburn scored four in the next match, an 8-2 win over the Ontario All Stars in Toronto, before Newcastle took a long trip west to Saskatoon to thrash the Saskatchewan All Stars 13-2. The most remarkable scoreline of the tour was achieved against the Alberta FA All Stars in Edmonton. Newcastle were 5-0 up at half-time and eventually won 16-2 – the biggest win in the club's history. Milburn hit six goals and Chilean forward George Robledo scored five. Teams from British Columbia, Winnipeg and Washington State were subsequently defeated in similar style.

 

Newcastle's players spent their free time sightseeing and playing golf, while reporters buzzed around them. "We're having a great time, and you are treating us like princes instead of soccer players," manager George Martin said.

 

Accompanying the team was the chairman's niece, Evelyn Mathewson. Asked if she attended all of Newcastle's matches, she replied with a smile: "Yes I do. I never miss one. I'm what you call over here a 'red-hot football fan', only I don't chew gum or eat peanuts."

 

In another article, under the headline "Player's Life Not All Peaches, Cream", the Free Press revealed that Newcastle's players were being paid around $40 per week: "This compares with the $90,000 handed out by the New York Yankees for the services of outfielder Joe DiMaggio this year."

 

Back on the field, Newcastle returned to Toronto for the first match against IFK Gothenburg. Extra bleachers were added in anticipation of a record crowd, and more than 22,000 turned up to watch what was billed as "the first international soccer game ever to be played in Canada". Milburn scored a hat-trick and Newcastle won 4-0.

 

The final match of the tour was played on Randall's Island in New York on June 19 as part of a much-publicised double-header. A Scottish international XI defeated a US XI 4-0, then Newcastle beat IFK 3-0, with Milburn scoring another two goals.

 

Milburn had scored 31 goals in 31 days, having netted in all 10 matches, while Robledo scored 19 goals. Newcastle's overall tour record was: played 10, won 10, scored 78.

 

The team – regarded by many as Newcastle's greatest ever – went on to win the FA Cup in 1951, 1952 and 1955, with Milburn scoring in two finals. Milburn was recalled by England in October 1949 and scored a hat-trick against Wales. However, he never became an England regular and was an unused squad member when the team lost 1-0 to the US – belatedly enjoying their brief "soccer boom" – at the World Cup finals in 1950.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/when-saturday-comes-blog/2013/jul/18/newcastle-american-tour-summer-1949

 

Great read. How the times have changed!

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Just seen the murmerings of Red Bull getting involved with a 'sponsorship' at Leeds. Aye, that'll definitely be all it is. Hope for the good of English football they get nowhere near any of our football clubs.

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Just seen the murmerings of Red Bull getting involved with a 'sponsorship' at Leeds. Aye, that'll definitely be all it is. Hope for the good of English football they get nowhere near any of our football clubs.

 

Surely a more financially stricken club they could prey on.

 

Leeds are one though, if someone gets right, you could absolutely coin it in on.

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Leeds fans seem convinced the FA will protect them from any potential rebranding/renaming. There's been 10 years of Premier League growth and further ultra commercialisation since Wimbledon became McDongs. There's no way I'd have such faith, RB simply don't get involved in anything unless they know there is significant opportunity to rebrand. They don't do half measures.

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