Ste Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Incredibly ill-advised comments from Whelan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Whelan And this, obvs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Wong, director of the Manchester Chinese Centre, an organisation devoted to Chinese community cultural understanding, said the word “chink” “is an insult, racist”. “I remember at school in the 70s a skinhead kicking me, calling me ‘chinky, chinky,’” Wong said. “It has stopped now; things have changed for the better." Should have stopped knocking about with him in the 70s tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/20/wigan-dave-whelan-accused-antisemitism-jewish-people Dave Whelan has been accused of antisemitism after the Wigan Athletic owner told the Guardian he believes that “Jewish people chase money more than everybody else”. A Chinese community leader, Jenny Wong, also said Whelan was condoning racism by saying it is “nothing” to call a Chinese person a “chink”. Whelan was explaining his appointment on Wednesday of Malky Mackay as Wigan’s manager, despite Mackay being currently under investigation by the Football Association for alleged racism and antisemitism over his email and text exchanges while in charge of Cardiff City with the club’s former head of recruitment Iain Moody. The three texts or emails Mackay had sent, Whelan said, included one describing the Cardiff City owner, Malaysian Vincent Tan, as a “chink”. In another, Mackay referred to the Jewish football agent, Phil Smith, saying: “Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers.” Whelan said he saw neither as offensive, nor did he consider offensive the other text for which he said Mackay was responsible, which referred to there being “enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go round”, when Mackay signed the South Korean international Kim Bo-kyung. Whelan said he does not believe the reference to Smith is offensive, first explaining that he believed Mackay was only reflecting that Jewish people “love money” like everybody does: “The Jews don’t like losing money. Nobody likes losing money,” Whelan told the Guardian. Asked whether he did not think what Mackay said was offensive, because the claim that Jews “love money” has been used as a negative stereotype, Whelan said: “Do you think Jewish people chase money a little bit more than we do? I think they are very shrewd people.” Asked if he himself believed that, Whelan, the multimillionaire former owner of JJB Sports, said yes: “I think Jewish people do chase money more than everybody else. I don’t think that’s offensive at all.” Whelan said he did not think there was “a lot wrong” with anything Mackay said, and there was no malice or disrespect in the statement about Smith. He added: “It’s telling the truth. Jewish people love money, English people love money; we all love money.” His remarks were condemned by Simon Johnson, the former FA and Premier League executive, who is Jewish and is now the chief executive at the Jewish Leadership Council. “Unfortunately Mr Mackay and now Mr Whelan have referred to some of the worst old-fashioned tropes which have been used in the past as the basis of antisemitism and stereotyping of Jewish people,” he said. “Mackay used offensive language to insult a fellow participant in football using a tawdry racial stereotype.” Whelan said “we’re all against racism in football” and that it was right that Mackay has attended diversity education courses. However, he said the word “chink” is not offensive, and that he used to say it of Chinese people when he was young. “If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying,” Whelan said. “There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits, or the Irish paddies.” Wong, director of the Manchester Chinese Centre, an organisation devoted to Chinese community cultural understanding, said the word “chink” “is an insult, racist”. “I remember at school in the 70s a skinhead kicking me, calling me ‘chinky, chinky,’” Wong said. “It has stopped now; things have changed for the better. We have legal protection against racism and that is important; it is not political correctness. As a football manager, this man should not have said it.” Whelan told the Guardian he has been advised by two “influential” people at the top of the FA that “nothing will come” from the investigation into Mackay, largely because the exchanges were in private communications, which the FA chairman Greg Dyke has previously said are beyond the organisation’s disciplinary processes. Lord Herman Ousley, the chair of football’s antiracism and discrimination organisation Kick It Out, has accused Wigan of “disregarding” the FA investigation, and he said it is “a disgrace” if senior figures at the FA have briefed Whelan that the investigation will not produce charges. Publicly the FA are not giving any guidance on the likely outcome, as the investigation is proceeding. “If this is true, the FA has been found wanting yet again,” Ousley said. “To give that sort of advice would be acting in collusion with comments that have clearly damaged football, while leaving everybody else in the dark respecting that due process is taking place.” Ousley believes that if private communications by public figures are exposed, they do have to be considered for a disciplinary process, and called on the FA to maintain a zero tolerance approach to racism and discrimination. good fucking grief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Whelan is a prime example showing you don't have to be particularly bright to make money. He's genuinely thick as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Fucking hell man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Even Steven Taylor is shaking his head at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Did you know Dave Whelan won the FA Cup with a broken freaking leg? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Did you know Dave Whelan won the FA Cup with a broken freaking leg? Did you know it was Cat Deeley's grandad that broke it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 It's true, it's damn true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 The man's a fucking embarrassment. Thinks he's important to football when he's just a cretinous old man in charge of arguably the most tin-pot of the league's 92 clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I heard him on talksport this morning and he sounded ridiculous saying that Mackay had only made a small mistake and apologised for it. Screamed of a bloke who found the texts hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Fucking creased at Whelan publicly saying those things about 'chinks' . what a fucking berk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Can't be legit quotes from Dave Whelan, doesn't mention his broken leg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Can't be legit quotes from Dave Whelan, doesn't mention his broken leg. nah, he forgot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 yep, clearly something is cognitively wrong with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just loves defending the indefensible. Utter turd of a human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Whelan said “we’re all against racism in football” and that it was right that Mackay has attended diversity education courses. However, he said the word “chink” is not offensive, and that he used to say it of Chinese people when he was young. “If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying,” Whelan said. “There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits, or the Irish paddies.” What a fucking moron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Keith Bishop is doing an amazing job like, you have to admit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Jewish people and English people. Two mutually exclusive concepts. Fucking idiot Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Whelan said “we’re all against racism in football” and that it was right that Mackay has attended diversity education courses. However, he said the word “chink” is not offensive, and that he used to say it of Chinese people when he was young. “If any Englishman said he has never called a Chinaman a chink he is lying,” Whelan said. “There is nothing bad about doing that. It is like calling the British Brits, or the Irish paddies.” What a fucking moron. holy shit :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 @RobHarris Dave Whelan on Sky: "I have got hundreds and hundreds of Jewish friends. I would never upset any Jewish person" Oy vey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I can never read the word without wanting to order a Chinese immediately. Aye it's fine man, because it's a race of people, and it's a food. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Unbelievable from Whelan. What a cantankerous old cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Apologised already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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