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Suffice to say I won't be opening that.

 

Yup. Who was it, and what injury?

No idea who it was but it's like when you bend your leg all the way back, except it went the opposite way to which his knee is supposed to bend.
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Didn't affect me that much for some reason. Absolutely horrific like, it doesn't even look like it should happen, you would think his leg would take the force and the player would bounce off him.

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http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/an-explanation-for-why-turkey-fans-appeared-to-boo-minutes-silence-for-paris-attack-victims/

 

Let it be clear: In Turkey (especially at football matches) a one minute silence is always used to chant for those who died in terrorist attacks.

 

And what they are chanting is this “Şehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”. Translation: “Martyrs, they do not die (they are immortal), homeland (land, our land) is indivisible.”

 

That is a habit from our past with the terrorist organisation PKK. More than 30,000 of our citizens died over the past 30 years by the PKK (including babies, women, children, teachers, officers, doctors, students and soldiers).

 

In any event, after PKK terrorists kill someone in Turkey, people chant this. Below is a proof from one Turkish Premier League match:

 

Same slogan “Şehitler ölmez, vatan bölünmez”.

 

And also, they booed the terrorist, not the victims. Any victims of terrorism are accepted as martyrs in Turkish culture. There is no disrespect to them, there has not been, there will not be.

 

I demand a correction for your news, as soon as possible and an information mail related to topic.

 

Because this news creates hate around the world against my people, and for the wrong reasons.

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Would like to hear VIs opinion on that.

There's nothing on our media about this. As a fan it would be really cool, but it would suck for all the teams that would find themselves relegated because of it. Also I don't think UEFA would give us more CL/EL slots so big clubs wouldn't probably want it either. For these reasons, I doubt this is real.

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Would be the near end of Portuguese clubs outside the big 3.

 

The attendances in that country are fucking appalling anyway, aren't they? 

 

I went to a Benfica game in the CL against Zenit and it was only about 25k out of 60k, apparently league games against the division's minnows it's less than half that.

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Would be the near end of Portuguese clubs outside the big 3.

 

The attendances in that country are fucking appalling anyway, aren't they? 

 

I went to a Benfica game in the CL against Zenit and it was only about 25k out of 60k, apparently league games against the division's minnows it's less than half that.

 

http://www.worldfootball.net/attendance/por-primeira-liga-2014-2015/1/

 

Some of the clubs are absolutely tiny though, plus most are rampant glory seekers so support Porto, Benfica or Sporting regardless of where they're from.

 

Estoril is the equivalent of Shields to Lisbon being Newcastle for example.

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Braga and Guimaraes have decent support, but the rest could be absorbed into the Spanish lower league system and nobody would bat an eye lid.

 

Like VI says, there's little chance of the big 3 Portuguese clubs nor the bigger Spanish clubs giving up CL/EL places with the added competition. So without adjustment to expand entrance for a combined league its a non starter. If they ever did though, it would make La Liga ridiculously strong. Porto and Benfica have managed to stay competitive in Europe despite playing in what is a minor league, they'd be powerhouses in La Liga (again so long as the CL/EL places are adjusted).

 

I honestly think this kind of stuff is necessary for the future of big clubs from smaller leagues. A Northern European league for one but particularly with former USSR and Slavic countries as they don't even have much history as separate leagues to forego. Although there's obvious geopolitical issues there.

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Braga and Guimaraes have decent support, but the rest could be absorbed into the Spanish lower league system and nobody would bat an eye lid.

 

Like VI says, there's little chance of the big 3 Portuguese clubs nor the bigger Spanish clubs giving up CL/EL places with the added competition. So without adjustment to expand entrance for a combined league its a non starter. If they ever did though, it would make La Liga ridiculously strong. Porto and Benfica have managed to stay competitive in Europe despite playing in what is a minor league, they'd be powerhouses in La Liga (again so long as the CL/EL places are adjusted).

 

I honestly think this kind of stuff is necessary for the future of big clubs from smaller leagues. A Northern European league for starters. Particularly with former USSR and Slavic countries as they don't even have much history as separate leagues to forego. Although there's obvious geopolitical issues there.

 

More needs to be done to promote the lesser leagues tbh, rather than going down the route of sacking off everyone but the superclubs. Fucking gloryseekers are to blame.

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It's a difficult one. I agree that it seems bad really to sack off smaller teams, as they have fanbases no matter how small. But if it means a more balanced and competitive European system then that would be worthwhile. The fact we're at the stage where there's only about 5 teams that can win the CL and they're all from big nations is a bit shite.

 

There isn't much that can be done in terms of 'promoting' smaller leagues, in the modern game the collective bargaining powers of bigger leagues means smaller countries don't stand a chance. They generate more money as a collective and the best players will go there. The like of Celtic and Ajax are hamstrung by the simple fact they're from countries with 5-10 million people. This was not a problem before the commercialisation and globalisation of football.

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And FWIW I don't think smaller clubs should be sacked off altogether. Is a small Portuguese club playing in the Spanish league system really any different to their current existence? I'd argue not. It'd probably be better and offer more potential for growth as a club to be honest.

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