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Andy Carroll (now playing for Bordeaux)


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I think it's an exaggeration that he always does it anyway, I don't think he does it any more than Fellaini always has, and our hero wasn't exactly innocent. Anyway I'm not in favour of elbowing, but the lack of physical play between defenders and forwards is a problem IMO, even less and we're getting close to netball.

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He's done it four times really badly in his last two appearances like. I agree that he hasn't always been like that, but I commented in the other games thread during the West Ham Watford match about him going full on radge recently.

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Didn't Shearer do the same thing? Seem to remember a pretty bad one against Charlton... Suppose it comes down to intent or perceived intent though. Tough call to make for refs, but I think 'dangerous play' without harmful intent is taken more seriously in the last 5 years or so that it was previously. I'd like to think Carroll isn't going round purposefully elbowing players in the face like.

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I don't think he's doing that, but he's very much leading with his arm which is the same thing by the modern laws of the game IF you catch someone. Carroll's caught a few players recently and when you see them they're pretty indefensible like.

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Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

 

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.

Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken

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Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

 

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.

Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken

 

Stop being a huckle, everyone knows the Ultimate Football Championship is where you want to be. Fuck the Premier League gravy train.

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Cant believe he’s not in prison like, it’s disgusting.

 

Hopefully the game will be completely sterilised soon so that players cant tackle or head the ball.

Aye, players should just be allowed throw elbows wherever they want. You must be a fanny if you don't want your nose broken

 

Ironic that this conversation is happening when one of our total legends was famous for having flailing elbows :lol:

 

Carroll is a big physical lad, he’s also tall and will get a good jump. He’s using his arms and elbows for leverage and to get players out of the way, he’s not intentionally hurting anyone. He’s played like this for his entire career, yet it’s only become a problem since the Burnley game.

 

If he whacks someone in the face, on purpose or by accident - fine, book him or send him off. But the state of that article man.

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When you look at all of the incidents, Carroll never breaks eyes with the ball.  He may know the opposing player is there but there's no intent to injure at all IMO. He's just hellbent on winning the ball and goes in fully committed. The thing that Carroll seems to do more than others, probably because of his superior height, is jump in at an angle and usually from a distance to win a header because he knows he can. He's rarely jumping straight up, a move that requires less balance adjustment and carries less momentum.  He's also a good deal taller than most of the players he's challenging so naturally they're more in line with his arms when he jumps.

I challenge anyone to leap sideways, forwards or backwards at an angle without using their arms for balance. You'll hit the deck almost every time and probably injure yourself.

To ask Carroll to stop doing what he's been doing recently is essentially asking him to stop challenging for so many headers - he might as well jack football in now if that's the case.

 

Players have always picked up head/facial injuries throughout the history of football because it's a physical contact sport where professionals put their bodies on the line. The last thing the new breed of pussy footballers need is more protection FFS, and if we sterilise the game any more than it already has been it won't be worth watching any more. We might as well watch netball.

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