KaKa Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 English players just can't stop with that long hollywood ball to no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Can tell Shelvey's been playing with Gerrard. Long diagonal balls floating out of play / straight to a Norway player. Blockbuster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 FA is no different to the goons that run us.. A lot of great talk about the future and the wonderful plans and vision they have. They have pumped money into youth set ups, but at the end of the day very little true intent or action in hiring and training the right staff to make things a reality. It's keeping up appearances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Pearce will be out of a job after this.. Can see him joining our coaching staff tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 How's that not a pen..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Captain Hendo with a dive, nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I am. You have the best league in the world domestically. Some of the best international managers and coaches have come to work in your country. The facilities are top notch everywhere in the country. You have a fairly big population and football is without doubt the number 1 sport. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that a country like Norway, or even Holland, should be taking the piss out of you. I read something the other day about why Norway's youth team is doing so well -- which was a surprise to me, as I don't follow it closely. Or at all. The claim was that it's due to the economic crisis, which for some reason struck Norwegian football hard (which is true), despite the fact that the overall economy is doing spectacularly well compared to the rest of Europe. The result is that instead of clubs bringing in foreign mercenaries looking for a stepping stone toward the bigger leagues, they have to rely on their own youth development. I don't think the same applies to England. Good English players are still more expensive than foreign players, especially at premier league level. Just look at NUFC. Although youth development was one of Ashley's stated goals, the players are mostly French. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I am. You have the best league in the world domestically. Some of the best international managers and coaches have come to work in your country. The facilities are top notch everywhere in the country. You have a fairly big population and football is without doubt the number 1 sport. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that a country like Norway, or even Holland, should be taking the p*ss out of you. I read something the other day about why Norway's youth team is doing so well -- which was a surprise to me, as I don't follow it closely. Or at all. The claim was that it's due to the economic crisis, which for some reason struck Norwegian football hard (which is true), despite the fact that the overall economy is doing spectacularly well compared to the rest of Europe. The result is that instead of clubs bringing in foreign mercenaries looking for a stepping stone toward the bigger leagues, they have to rely on their own youth development. I don't think the same applies to England. Good English players are still more expensive than foreign players, especially at premier league level. Just look at NUFC. Although youth development was one of Ashley's stated goals, the players are mostly French. A similar thing applies to Holland. Foreign players in the Eredivisie have to earn a certain minimum salary (not spectacularly high for a professional footballer, but still. Believe it is around 200k/year), so often it is more attractive to pad the squad with talented youngsters rather than foreign players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Its a bad sign when Jordan Henderson is your best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 knitting. Fucking Norwads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Suspensions and injuries ... the classic excuse. My goodness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 6 years of Pearce. Stability! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I was impressed with Redmond. He looked much better than the more fancied names of Zaha and Ince, and would be worth a bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 *pish* If this lot are the future of the national side, then we are fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Journo's on twitter saying we expect the U21's to be like Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 You'd think England had played Holland and Spain the way Pearce is whinging on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Journo's on twitter saying we expect the U21's to be like Spain. This is part of the problem, the nation expects these players to be better than they are. Zaha is overrated to all hell, been saying it for over a year and i stand by it. Ince is a good player IMO but he's never going to be WC quarter finalist class. Obviously not the main problem but part of it, the hype is so huge surrounding some of these players when in reality the majority will never be anything more than mid table PL players. Not to mention, Spain's players IQ is off the charts. Anyone pay attention to the intelligence of Illarramendi, Thiago and Isco? our players look like they have down syndrome compared to them. Hell f*ck Spain, Italy's midfielders intelligence and appreciation of space and movement is leagues above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Simon Peach @SimonPeach 14m Norway had a flight booked home on Wednesday as they expected to be knocked out. That is how much #EnglandU21s have underperformed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I dont watch them regularly, but Pearce's U21 record is pretty good overall isn't it? Is this just another instance of English footballers being psychologically/genetically incapable of playing well in major tournaments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 I dont watch them regularly, but Pearce's U21 record is pretty good overall isn't it? Is this just another instance of English footballers being psychologically/genetically incapable of playing well in major tournaments? No Pearce is shit he and Pardew are cut from the same cloth, his record means nothing he has not shown the ability of developing youngsters. Besides youth football isn't about results its about learning your trade and improving your understanding and skill among other things. Which is another issue, this country is too fixated on results and we have a coach who is only interesting in himself and improving his CV( shame he's failing at that too ) and not developing the youngsters to be future England first teamers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 How the fuck can you have Pearce as your manager and expect to be a force in the future. Worse than us having Pardew... nah, the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Brilliant goal from Italy there. Saponara who is going to Milan in the summer from Empoli. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Lovely goal, no more than they've deserved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Heard a lot about Saponara from Milan fans, i hope he's as good as the hype that is around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Israel are fairly toss like. Being opened up at will here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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