Ikon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sissoko can't play in a midfield 2 imo. I'm certain Wijnaldum is his replacement in any case. Not sure if he's an improvement either. Personally i think he's an improvement, especially if we're looking to have more possession in our games. Sissoko doesn't offer much unless we're on the break and he has a lot of space to run in to/with the ball. I doubt we'll go with only two more central type of midfielders anyway, we don't have the players to play 4-4-2 for example. When the opposition defends more deeply i don't think Sissoko is effective at all. I'd say Wijnaldum has better technical skills than Sissoko, even though he might not be super creative like some other players. Intelligent movement as well from what i've seen (which isn't a lot tbh) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sorry if this has been posted before... http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/08/newcastle-united-table-15million-transfer-offer-for-tottenham-hotspur-winger-andros-townsend-5285246/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sorry if this has been posted before... http://metro.co.uk/2015/07/08/newcastle-united-table-15million-transfer-offer-for-tottenham-hotspur-winger-andros-townsend-5285246/ Hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 15 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I like him but not for £15 mill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 english obertan with a better shot, no fucking thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 english obertan with a better shot, no fucking thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sissoko can't play in a midfield 2 imo. I'm certain Wijnaldum is his replacement in any case. Not sure if he's an improvement either. Personally i think he's an improvement, especially if we're looking to have more possession in our games. Sissoko doesn't offer much unless we're on the break and he has a lot of space to run in to/with the ball. I doubt we'll go with only two more central type of midfielders anyway, we don't have the players to play 4-4-2 for example. Most 4-3-3's with a #10 are more like 4-2-3-1 like Chelsea now or 4-4-1-1 like Pardew. A pure 4-3-3 with a DM would leave De Jong out. If Sissoko stays perhaps we could adopt a diamond?: Tiote (for arguments sake) Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Interesting I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 15 mil for 0 goals and 0 assist. No thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Sissoko can't play in a midfield 2 imo. I'm certain Wijnaldum is his replacement in any case. Not sure if he's an improvement either. Personally i think he's an improvement, especially if we're looking to have more possession in our games. Sissoko doesn't offer much unless we're on the break and he has a lot of space to run in to/with the ball. I doubt we'll go with only two more central type of midfielders anyway, we don't have the players to play 4-4-2 for example. Most 4-3-3's with a #10 are more like 4-2-3-1 like Chelsea now or 4-4-1-1 like Pardew. A pure 4-3-3 with a DM would leave De Jong out. If Sissoko stays perhaps we could adopt a diamond?: Tiote (for arguments sake) Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Interesting I suppose. i reckon they'll be expecting big things from aarons this year if he stays fit myself like so would expect any initial systems to accommodate him if sissoko stays and we get winegum & mitrovic i'd see a 4-4-1-1 with aarons & sissoko on each side then de jong / perez / cabella fighting for the spot off the striker....winegum + 1 in CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 IMO football philosophy wise - NUFC is a swashbuckling, high-octane club. I don't think a possession based approach suits us or the crowd. Our best teams, dominated at times but where always quick, powerful and attacking but never possession for the sake of it. Similar to Man Utd in that respect. It would take patience (which we don't have) or a top, top manager like LVG to change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 IMO football philosophy wise - NUFC is a swashbuckling, high-octane club. I don't think a possession based approach suits us or the crowd. Our best teams, dominated at times but where always quick, powerful and attacking but never possession for the sake of it. Similar to Man Utd in that respect. It would take patience (which we don't have) or a top, top manager like LVG to change that. well, i don't think anyone is saying we'll suddenly try to become swansea but something in between that and treating the ball like a hand grenade with the pin pulled as we did for years under your bezzy mate pardle would be nice i reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Townsend, and for £15m God no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Townsend, and for £15m God no. <10m i could live with it but i'd be fucking apoplectic with rage if they choose to spaff 15m on that useless cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 IMO football philosophy wise - NUFC is a swashbuckling, high-octane club. I don't think a possession based approach suits us or the crowd. Our best teams, dominated at times but where always quick, powerful and attacking but never possession for the sake of it. Similar to Man Utd in that respect. It would take patience (which we don't have) or a top, top manager like LVG to change that. If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. well, i don't think anyone is saying we'll suddenly try to become swansea but something in between that and treating the ball like a hand grenade with the pin pulled as we did for years under your bezzy mate pardle would be nice i reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Derby did play possession football under McClaren, got some criticism for not being more direct IIRC, so it's possible we'll be going in that direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 IMO football philosophy wise - NUFC is a swashbuckling, high-octane club. I don't think a possession based approach suits us or the crowd. Our best teams, dominated at times but where always quick, powerful and attacking but never possession for the sake of it. Similar to Man Utd in that respect. It would take patience (which we don't have) or a top, top manager like LVG to change that. If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. well, i don't think anyone is saying we'll suddenly try to become swansea but something in between that and treating the ball like a hand grenade with the pin pulled as we did for years under your bezzy mate pardle would be nice i reckon i was referring to rodgers swansea mind with their 80% possession stats and shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Derby did play possession football under McClaren, got some criticism for not being more direct IIRC, so it's possible we'll be going in that direction. i think it's a logical step for our squad personally; we've got the players to play it through the midfield (or will have if we sign this other dutch lad) and it'll relieve pressure on the shite defence we're still likely to have if i was mclaren i'd be working on possession like a lunatic and try to dominate every game we play in with a view to developing a more direct style after a season or so we've got to reverse years of backwards coaching ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Think as a club we are more SAF than LVG. Unless we succeed it could be trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. Tiote receiving the ball from defenders has cost us enough goals over the years, thanks. Not to mention the fact it usually means his partner has to sit deeper than he really should in order to negate Cheick's weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Think as a club we are more SAF than LVG. Unless we succeed it could be trouble. unless we succeed? we nearly got relegated through playing a game where we didn't want the ball lets try the other way shall we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. Tiote receiving the ball from defenders has cost us enough goals over the years, thanks. Not to mention the fact it usually means his partner has to sit deeper than he should to negate his weaknesses. i'd sell him like, without a doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 If Tiote would sort his life out (he may be rejuvenated having played under SmC before, who knows?) I think him and Anita would be a good 2 deep lying midfielders to have if we wanted to play a similar style of short-passing, quick moving possesion football that Swansea do. Tiote receiving the ball from defenders has cost us enough goals over the years, thanks. Not to mention the fact it usually means his partner has to sit deeper than he really should in order to negate Cheick's weaknesses. Aye and Tiote on his game playing as nothing more than a juggernaut to break up play and sit back has also saved us from conceding many goals over a period of time too. Aye he's been shite lately, but when Pardew was using him as a fucking deep-lying playmaker I don't know what you'd expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 IMO football philosophy wise - NUFC is a swashbuckling, high-octane club. I don't think a possession based approach suits us or the crowd. Our best teams, dominated at times but where always quick, powerful and attacking but never possession for the sake of it. Similar to Man Utd in that respect. It would take patience (which we don't have) or a top, top manager like LVG to change that. Man U did play a possession game, only it was very fast paced with lots of forward movement. A million miles from the deep sitting long ball game we've adopted under Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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