duo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Whilst JK is here we're going to buy no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Whilst JK is here we're going to buy no one. He was in Germany this well according to reports. He clearly didn't make it past the bier Keller's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Whilst JK is here we're going to buy no one. He has no say man, he is ashley mouthpiece. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/The_Mouth_of_Sauron.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. The recession was a bonus for him tbh. Aye, that's exactly what i meant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. The recession was a bonus for him tbh. Aye, that's exactly what i meant It's strange when you think about it, but I'd be willing to bet he saw an upturn in customers. Not only him, many bargain basement retailers like Aldi and Lidl etc. It was the middle ones that were hammered, the bottom and top end usually do OK in recession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. The recession was a bonus for him tbh. Aye, that's exactly what i meant It's strange when you think about it, but I'd be willing to bet he saw an upturn in customers. I worked for nearly 25 years as a household removals man and in that job you saw a recession coming a good year before it happened, house buying is one of the first to drop off. If people like me in that kind of job could see it, someone like him certainly would have. The timing of it all, buy us and get Sports Direct in the forefront of most TV screens. Combined with squeezed incomes, sell clothes/shoes cheap. And despite all the shit that has gone on, any publicity is good publicity. Well a suspicious mind and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. I've really no idea now what Ashley really wants. Does he want to sell, while people say he would there has been no effort on that front. Does he want to own a successful football club, the lack of ambition says no. So he just want to own a mid table self funding boring football club. Doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. I've really no idea now what Ashley really wants. Does he want to sell, while people say he would there has been no effort on that front. Does he want to own a successful football club, the lack of ambition says no. So he just want to own a mid table self funding boring football club. Doesn't make sense. I think he came in with two ideas - 1. To be the fabled 'Geordie Abramovic' after being fed s**** by Hall/Shepherd 2. To advertise his company internationally. Obviously 1 has gone tits up so we're left with 2 & as long as we exist in the premier league - off our own steam - he's doing a number on us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Whilst JK is here we're going to buy no one. We could sign players regardless of Kinnear. If we really wanted to bring players in and Kinnear was finding it tough then Charnley or Ashley would step in. Ashley was rumoured to have carried out the transfers of all last January, and the players were here in a crack. Joe Kinnear was never brought to club to run transfers, that was a flat out lie imo just to give him a title. We only signed Anita and Bigi when Llambias was here the summer after we got 5th, the same problems and frustrations we have now were present when JFK wasnt around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Joe Kinnear was never brought to club to run the clubs transfers, that was a flat out lie imo just to give him a title. This is the best-case scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. I've really no idea now what Ashley really wants. Does he want to sell, while people say he would there has been no effort on that front. Does he want to own a successful football club, the lack of ambition says no. So he just want to own a mid table self funding boring football club. Doesn't make sense. I think he came in with two ideas - 1. To be the fabled 'Geordie Abramovic' after being fed s**** by Hall/Shepherd 2. To advertise his company internationally. Obviously 1 has gone tits up so we're left with 2 & as long as we exist in the premier league - off our own steam - he's doing a number on us. I think you're spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Whilst JK is here we're going to buy no one. We could sign players regardless of Kinnear. If we really wanted to bring players in and Kinnear was finding it tough then Charnley or Ashley would step in. Ashley was rumoured to have carried out the transfers of all last January, and the players were here in a crack. Joe Kinnear was never brought to club to run transfers, that was a flat out lie imo just to give him a title. We only signed Anita and Bigi when Llambias was here the summer after we got 5th, the same problems and frustrations we have now were present when JFK wasnt around. Not to take anything away from your points as your spot on.... but i'd take a Anita and Bigi equivalent right about now. ( different positions though naturally) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Unless we break the bank it's hard to get players to move at this time of the year. On top of that we can question the quality available, Gomis and De jong? They may add numbers but not the quality to improve our season They certainly don't look worth breaking the bank for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. I've really no idea now what Ashley really wants. Does he want to sell, while people say he would there has been no effort on that front. Does he want to own a successful football club, the lack of ambition says no. So he just want to own a mid table self funding boring football club. Doesn't make sense. I think he came in with two ideas - 1. To be the fabled 'Geordie Abramovic' after being fed s**** by Hall/Shepherd 2. To advertise his company internationally. Obviously 1 has gone tits up so we're left with 2 & as long as we exist in the premier league - off our own steam - he's doing a number on us. Only a tiny fraction of SD business is international right now. I said on another thread that the best result for us (under his ownership) would be that at some point he wants to expand SD internationally and he wants to use us to help. In that situation the only way we'd be any use is if we were much higher profile and more successful than we are now. So he'd have to show more ambition for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 For sure, and thats how far we've sunk (no offence to either of those players). Kinnear may be part of this 'delegation', but it's Ashley that has our transfers or lack of them under his total control, and JFK is part of the lies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 So fucking sick of supporting a nothing club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Ambition = Zero Yep, what's the bloody point in it all. Was it Dave who posted a stat saying what % Sports Direct had increased taking since Ashley bought us? Sadly a large part of it is that. I think Sports Direct's success is two fold. Ashley's involvement in us, and tbf clothes/shoes/trainers that parents and lower paid workers can afford. I know that's not something we want readily admit but it's true nevertheless. The current climate has been kind to him. Not that i'm doubting his ownership of us has had nothing to do with it, just a smaller part of it than we think imo. Aye I wouldn't say it's a massive part but I would say there's got to be something noticeable in his figures I reckon or the club would have to go one way or the other ambition wise. I've really no idea now what Ashley really wants. Does he want to sell, while people say he would there has been no effort on that front. Does he want to own a successful football club, the lack of ambition says no. So he just want to own a mid table self funding boring football club. Doesn't make sense. I think he came in with two ideas - 1. To be the fabled 'Geordie Abramovic' after being fed s**** by Hall/Shepherd 2. To advertise his company internationally. Obviously 1 has gone tits up so we're left with 2 & as long as we exist in the premier league - off our own steam - he's doing a number on us. Only a tiny fraction of SD business is international right now. I said on another thread that the best result for us (under his ownership) would be that at some point he wants to expand SD internationally and he wants to use us to help. In that situation the only way we'd be any use is if we were much higher profile and more successful than we are now. So he'd have to show more ambition for the club. Is that not where the rumours of him binning us off for Rangers, once they're back in the SPL came from? Could get them in the CL year in year out with a significantly smaller investment than it would take to have us crack the top 4. Sad but true indictment of domestic English football in its current state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I usually check this thread at least 5-6 times a day during transfer windows, but I just can't be bothered this month. I go days without looking because it's pretty fucking clear we're not doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You look at Everton bringing in another striker, hoping to push on (i know it's only a loan). We're going to bring in no one so we can stand still. Fucking joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You look at Everton bringing in another striker, hoping to push on (i know it's only a loan). We're going to bring in no one so we can stand still. Fucking joke. Same old, those around us strengthen and we do nothing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You look at Everton bringing in another striker, hoping to push on (i know it's only a loan). We're going to bring in no one so we can stand still. Fucking joke. Same old, those around us strengthen and we do nothing So frustrating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 You look at Everton bringing in another striker, hoping to push on (i know it's only a loan). We're going to bring in no one so we can stand still. Fucking joke. Same old, those around us strengthen and we do nothing So frustrating We are being mugged off, the entire reason Kinnear was brought in. Its not that we can't sign players its he won't, nailed on we are heading for a summer that is going to be just as frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 http://www.francefootball.fr/news/Doucoure-plait-a-newcastle/434924 France Football saying Abdoulaye Doucoure from Rennes is being watched, and we "could go on the offensive in the next few days", which I think literally translates to preparing a bid. Afro-French with 6 months contract. http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2gbeQnH1XuRx8h0KA15NCGgxdnwVsQYVPBKOLTfrs1KjNd-mRtQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Massive feeling of apathy atm towards the club. Is it like that in the ground as well right now? Seemed okay when I was at the Southampton game, but tbh now things seem to be proper stagnating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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