BillClinton Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Linked with Ladislav Krejci again, we could do a lot worse. I'd like to see some more wingers though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Except we have seen him kick a ball unlike you. You're beyond help. Your argument is pathetic. PS - I went and watched Wolfsburg live on one occasion last season and managed to catch between 6-8 of their league and cup games on TV. But obviously you know everything and you are a world class football scout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 This thread is a rhetorical masterclass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 He looks genuinely shocked every time he scores. Shit, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Except we have seen him kick a ball unlike you. You're beyond help. Your argument is pathetic. PS - I went and watched Wolfsburg live on one occasion last season and managed to catch between 6-8 of their league and cup games on TV. But obviously you know everything and you are a world class football scout. Good on you. So you're not ignorant, just completely rubbish at properly assessing a player. But please do tell, what did you see in Dost's style of play that made you think he would be good enough for the PL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Except we have seen him kick a ball unlike you. You're beyond help. Your argument is pathetic. PS - I went and watched Wolfsburg live on one occasion last season and managed to catch between 6-8 of their league and cup games on TV. But obviously you know everything and you are a world class football scout. Good on you. So you're not ignorant, just completely rubbish at properly assessing a player. But please do tell, what did you see in Dost's style of play that made you think he would be good enough for the PL? I've not said I think he'll be a success, all I have said is you cannot write a player off before he is started. Given the right players around him, he'll score goals - as he has proven over three seasons, in two different leagues. His addition would be useful, given they also add in the areas around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 He looks genuinely shocked every time he scores. s***, IMO. It's passion! One of the reasons I know he will do well here. Such desire! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Mother of god the negativity in this thread man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Stop it Unbelievable, it's unbecoming to use actual observations from games you've watched to form a reasonable argument! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Desperate for us to sign Dost now, and for him to bang in like 30 goals in his first season Boy would I laud it over Parky and unbelievable in particular! I'd love him to score 30 a season, pretty sure Parky and Unbelievable would too. I think what they're trying to say is based on his career to date there's limited evidence to suggest he's the man for us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Stop it Unbelievable, it's unbecoming to use actual observations from games you've watched to form a reasonable argument! You do realise Figures is doing the exact same thing right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I've seen him plenty of BT and that goal scoring run was impressive but I'd wager it was a one off and De Bruyne was insane during that period. No one is saying he's s*** people are just expressing a concern over his suitability for the league and our transfer policy ffs. One question, we have a transfer policy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I've seen him plenty of BT and that goal scoring run was impressive but I'd wager it was a one off and De Bruyne was insane during that period. No one is saying he's s*** people are just expressing a concern over his suitability for the league and our transfer policy ffs. a clumsy, cumbersome target man that got injured, looked poor, went bezerk for a handful of games, then resorted back to playing like a bull in a China shop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 It's just another meh appointment in a long list of meh-ness I think is the issue. He could well "do a job." But he's not going to light the league up and it doesn't bode well that he would be our marquee signing expected to score the lions share of the goals this season. After everything that has gone on, to dispel the aura of misery, negativity and hopelessness we really need to pull the stops out for a proven goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have seen him enough to know what we would be getting, nothing exciting about signing him at all but tbf you could say that about every link going. You didn't answer my question - how many Wolfsburg fixtures did you watch last season to gain such an expert judgement on him? The bloke started 28 games last season (across league, cup and international), scored 20 goals and got 7 assists. Terrified of the ball he is, absolutely terrified. Fine. He's a penalty box striker with good general instincts but needs to be force fed. In other words his ability on the ball isn't very good at all and seeing as we don't really create much it would be De Jong mk2 ( the crap one) except i agree with Unbelievable, De Jong is a better player. Still didn't answer my question, but okay Lets hope we don't sign this bloke, because four people on an internet forum claim to have scouted him on a regular basis (with their intense and fantastic scouting record) and deem him unable to be a success for us. :cheesy: And your qualification for opining on this subject is? I've not said he's good nor bad, I've just criticised others who have slated a man who they've barely seen kick a ball. I've simply stated to give the bloke a chance (should he sign). Except we have seen him kick a ball unlike you. You're beyond help. Your argument is pathetic. PS - I went and watched Wolfsburg live on one occasion last season and managed to catch between 6-8 of their league and cup games on TV. But obviously you know everything and you are a world class football scout. Don't buy for one second you watched him 6-8 times and believe him to be an exciting prospect for us. Sorry, but you must've caught the Bayern 4-1 game but even then his general play isn't excellent and I can definitely see where Unbelievable is coming from with the Luuk comparison. Outside the box he's not much, but he doesn't contribute enough in general play to come to a club like ours and shine. Before you ask me as well, yes I've watched far more than 6-8 full 90 minutes of Wolfsburg this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Would love to know when I named him as an exciting prospect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 So much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Outside the box he's not much, but he doesn't contribute enough in general play to come to a club like ours and shine. Just like Cisse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Would love to know when I named him as an exciting prospect You're implying that aren't you? I think Mole, Mandoon and Unbelievable have been quite spot on with their opinions. He might get goals, but he doesn't contribute enough in general play to ever succeed in a club like ours unless we change our ways of playing. In the right team he's not a horrible player, but we're so shit all over we'd need someone that can get involved in general play, which despite Pardew probably believing that because of his height, he doesn't do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Would love to know when I named him as an exciting prospect You're implying that aren't you? I think Mole, Mandoon and Unbelievable have been quite spot on with their opinions. He might get goals, but he doesn't contribute enough in general play to ever succeed in a club like ours unless we change our ways of playing. In the right team he's not a horrible player, but we're so s*** all over we'd need someone that can get involved in general play, which despite Pardew probably believing that because of his height, he doesn't do well. Am I? Have I not stated (several times) that I'm not saying he is going to succeed or not, merely stating he deserves a chance (if signed). I said that if he has the right players around him, he'll score goals - which is evidenced in his goal-scoring record. The only counter arguments is that people think he looks bad, or doesn't contribute etc. etc. He's barely had a bad season as a player, yet people seem to think we could do better. Makes me laugh how everyone slated (and rightly so) Pardew for asking wingers to "contribute" and not just attack, yet this guy just attacks and people moan he doesn't contribute! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Also at what stage of the deal are we at, are we: monitoring, considering preparing an offer, preparing an offer, making a derisory offer, making a second derisory offer, being told to f*** off by the selling club, thrashing out personal terms, making a derisory contract offer, being told to f*** off by the player, edging over the line or over the line? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Poll added. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Also at what stage of the deal are we at, are we: monitoring, considering preparing an offer, preparing an offer, making a derisory offer, making a second derisory offer, being told to f*** off by the selling club, thrashing out personal terms, making a derisory contract offer, being told to f*** off by the player, edging over the line or over the line? "Made contact." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Poll added. It was his fucking question man, it's just boring question. Mole and those guys were answering him without dropping random numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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