STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Just don't think they get any positive spin out of failing to sign people. I don't know, neither do you two (or Ronaldo) but I just can't see why they would bother with this. I've said I believe they might do things like lower the price late in the deal, or not spend as much as the manager wants etc. I just don't think it's part of some sort of masterplan to delude the public. Anyway, who knows? It just seems a very obscure way to get good publicity. Every single window, same thing happens, every single window, fans lap up the 'we tried' shite man. "nee value", "player too expensive", "mercenary wants too much money", "do a leeds" It's still fucking happening. And if they are telling the truth? It's one thing lying, it's another being a tight cunt. Neither are relevant in the last two windows. We have spent but it's too little too late IMO. Anytime we bid for someone, some nonce peeps up with "we tried, chortle chortle." It's boring nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I know it happens, I just don't think it's done deliberately for PR. What do you think Keith Bishop does? PR isn't he? What's that got to do with transfers? Oh that's right, nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I know it happens, I just don't think it's done deliberately for PR. What do you think Keith Bishop does? I know what PR is, that's not my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. “We wanted to sign Sami Hyypiä. “The fee had to be £1.25million. We knew what his wages would be. “So I went to Wise and Jimenez and said if you put that offer in he will come. The wages weren’t excessive. “We left it with them. We got a phonecall four hours later from Sami saying: ‘What’s going on here?’ “They offered £500,000. They came back and said we’ve offered but they turned it down.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Newcastle United bid for City star Johnson http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-bid-city-star-1449057 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Newcastle United bid for City star Johnson http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-bid-city-star-1449057 Doesn't make it true, though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Just don't think they get any positive spin out of failing to sign people. I don't know, neither do you two (or Ronaldo) but I just can't see why they would bother with this. I've said I believe they might do things like lower the price late in the deal, or not spend as much as the manager wants etc. I just don't think it's part of some sort of masterplan to delude the public. Anyway, who knows? It just seems a very obscure way to get good publicity. Every single window, same thing happens, every single window, fans lap up the 'we tried' shite man. "nee value", "player too expensive", "mercenary wants too much money", "do a leeds" It's still fucking happening. And if they are telling the truth? It's one thing lying, it's another being a tight cunt. Neither are relevant in the last two windows. We have spent but it's too little too late IMO. Anytime we bid for someone, some nonce peeps up with "we tried, chortle chortle." It's boring nonsense. It's somewhere in between lying and being a tight cunt. Both are still relevant. It's not as straightforward as "we wont spend money". We'll spend, but only when terms are unlikely to be accepted as they'll always be very much financially beneficial to ourselves (with potential future value of a player being defined by the Carr/McClaren/Charnley brain trust). We'll make offers that are derisory, and we'll stretch out negotiations with very little movement, and then say we tried when we fail to sign those players. I don't see how it's nonsense at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. “We wanted to sign Sami Hyypiä. “The fee had to be £1.25million. We knew what his wages would be. “So I went to Wise and Jimenez and said if you put that offer in he will come. The wages weren’t excessive. “We left it with them. We got a phonecall four hours later from Sami saying: ‘What’s going on here?’ “They offered £500,000. They came back and said we’ve offered but they turned it down.” I'm sure this is true, but to me it's more the club disagreeing with KK and/or not wanting the player enough to pay the going rate. I'm sure we do this, I just don't think it's for PR reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 What a boring argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. “We wanted to sign Sami Hyypiä. “The fee had to be £1.25million. We knew what his wages would be. “So I went to Wise and Jimenez and said if you put that offer in he will come. The wages weren’t excessive. “We left it with them. We got a phonecall four hours later from Sami saying: ‘What’s going on here?’ “They offered £500,000. They came back and said we’ve offered but they turned it down.” I'm sure this is true, but to me it's more the club disagreeing with KK and/or not wanting the player enough to pay the going rate. I'm sure we do this, I just don't think it's for PR reasons. Why would you even bid for a player that you do not want? A bid so far from the asking price that you know it will be rejected out of hand. Isn't that the very definition of a "we tried" bid that people are referring to here? P.S. I agree it's a boring argument but howay, there's plenty of evidence for what LFEE alluded to, from people far more reputable and respectable than the cunts currently officially representing the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 It is a pointless debate, sorry I brought it up again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Newcastle United bid for City star Johnson http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-bid-city-star-1449057 Doesn't make it true, though? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The fake bids thing is nonsense like, always has been. We're just tight, bad to deal with and incompetent. Wasn't it proved in the KK lawsuit that the club had been deliberately bidding low? I remember an interview he gave (think it's on YT) that he'd (KK) get the price the club wanted and the wages the player wanted then would sit back to find out the club had offered lower and then just pulled the plug. Ok they may bid but they have been proved to of done this deliberately knowing it won't get accepted in the past. “We wanted to sign Sami Hyypiä. “The fee had to be £1.25million. We knew what his wages would be. “So I went to Wise and Jimenez and said if you put that offer in he will come. The wages weren’t excessive. “We left it with them. We got a phonecall four hours later from Sami saying: ‘What’s going on here?’ “They offered £500,000. They came back and said we’ve offered but they turned it down.” I'm sure this is true, but to me it's more the club disagreeing with KK and/or not wanting the player enough to pay the going rate. I'm sure we do this, I just don't think it's for PR reasons. Do you think Ashley doesn't care what the fans think of him? I hope not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Eddy Onazi: http://www.football-italia.net/78945/newcastle-swansea-vie-onazi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Eddy Onazi: http://www.football-italia.net/78945/newcastle-swansea-vie-onazi Be a bit pointless wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Another midfielder? No way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I quite like him. Would have rather him than Saivet. But a bit pointless now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 That's a great price for Onazi. Shoud have got him ahead of Saivet IMO. Oh well ... whoever gets him will be really lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Just don't think they get any positive spin out of failing to sign people. I don't know, neither do you two (or Ronaldo) but I just can't see why they would bother with this. I've said I believe they might do things like lower the price late in the deal, or not spend as much as the manager wants etc. I just don't think it's part of some sort of masterplan to delude the public. Anyway, who knows? It just seems a very obscure way to get good publicity. Maybe it's because you work down South these days but you wouldn't believe the shit a lot of fans soak up up here. They've become brainwashed with "we tried..." Stories. Sufficiently enough to renew their Season and Match Tickets. I hear it day in day out with people at work etc. And no need to apologise about bringing it up again as that's the whole point of a forum to discuss things. It's nothing personal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Ian, you're so f***ing naive man This. Don't mean to be harsh Ian but you've got your head in the clouds on this one. Just don't think they get any positive spin out of failing to sign people. I don't know, neither do you two (or Ronaldo) but I just can't see why they would bother with this. I've said I believe they might do things like lower the price late in the deal, or not spend as much as the manager wants etc. I just don't think it's part of some sort of masterplan to delude the public. Anyway, who knows? It just seems a very obscure way to get good publicity. Maybe it's because you work down South these days but you wouldn't believe the shit a lot of fans soak up up here. They've become brainwashed with "we tried..." Stories. Sufficiently enough to renew their Season and Match Tickets. I hear it day in day out with people at work etc. And no need to apologise about bringing it up again as that's the whole point of a forum to discuss things. It's nothing personal Why do you keep saying "we tried" stories? Where are these stories? I must have missed them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The last one was claiming interest in Charlie Austin when anyone with half a brain knew he only wanted to go to Southampton or Bournmouth due to the circumstances. We were never truly in for him let's be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The last one was claiming interest in Charlie Austin when anyone with half a brain knew he only wanted to go to Southampton or Bournmouth due to the circumstances. We were never truly in for him let's be honest. So no proof whatsoever that the club created Austin rumours to appease the fans? I've got no problem criticising this regime but let's actually use things they have done rather than rumours, gossip and exaggeration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The last one was claiming interest in Charlie Austin when anyone with half a brain knew he only wanted to go to Southampton or Bournmouth due to the circumstances. We were never truly in for him let's be honest. So no proof whatsoever that the club created Austin rumours to appease the fans? I've got no problem criticising this regime but let's actually use things they have done rather than rumours, gossip and exaggeration. They never denied them when they were losing ST holders hand over fist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 What club denies every rumour in the press? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 What club denies every rumour in the press? If you think the club has never lied to us intentionally in order to help season ticket sales that's fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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