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No chance Martinez will be sacked. Everton just did too well last year for that to happen. Mirrors very much our time with Pardew, following on from the 5th place, we had a teribad league campaign but got to the 1/4 finals in Europe. They'll survive more comfortably than we did that time and he has enough in the bank with the chairman to be given more time. Next year will be more interesting though, because if he continues with the way he was at Wigan, then I can't see the Everton fans standing for it, he'll be out before Christmas, especially if he follows that Wigan pattern of starting very slowly in the league.

 

Can't really work Martinez out, last year looked like he was one of the best managers in the league, looked like he had been crippled all these years with Wigan's small budget. But this year looks like he's back to the manager we saw at Wigan, just surviving on runs a great form at the end of a season.

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No chance Martinez will be sacked. Everton just did too well last year for that to happen. Mirrors very much our time with Pardew, following on from the 5th place, we had a teribad league campaign but got to the 1/4 finals in Europe. They'll survive more comfortably than we did that time and he has enough in the bank with the chairman to be given more time. Next year will be more interesting though, because if he continues with the way he was at Wigan, then I can't see the Everton fans standing for it, he'll be out before Christmas, especially if he follows that Wigan pattern of starting very slowly in the league.

 

Can't really work Martinez out, last year looked like he was one of the best managers in the league, looked like he had been crippled all these years with Wigan's small budget. But this year looks like he's back to the manager we saw at Wigan, just surviving on runs a great form at the end of a season.

 

He's very inconsistent and it seems he needs a very solid defence to bail him out and when that doesn't materialise, its a mess. Last season Everton had a reasonably solid and consistent defence I think and a good spine to the side. Lukaku has been a huge disappointment though and Barry, Baines and Jagielka have all underperformed while Barkley has been hit by injuries.

 

I'd have him here in a shot personally, I love his philosophy and his methods and I feel he probably works best when he has no real budget. He's a coach predominantly and a very good one.

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Martinez has never changed to try and keep a side up and that'll stop him getting the top jobs. I harp back to it, but the game we beat Wigan when we were in that absolute dire run, the amount of times in the first 10-15 minutes I think it was Figueroa & Al Habsi fucked up by trying to play out of defence when we were repeatedly closing them down and forcing them into errors was ridiculous...and Martinez never changed it. People will say it's admirable, he stuck by his beliefs, etc. but it was suicide.

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We usually collapse at Everton and at the bare minimum Martinez is more competent than Carver, so I fully expect them to destroy us, especially Lukaku.  He's not been in great form, but our defence is woeful.  That will probably keep them up, same as another collapse from us at Sunderland will keep them up as well.  We're the saviour of teams that can collapse into relegation.

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Willo was fine against Lukaku in the away fixture last season. It was before he came on that the damage was done.

Captain Courageous and Mapou cowering springs to mind.

its fair to say we've all seen some fairly terrible defensive displays as nufc fans on pretty much a weekly basis for as long as we've been supporting the club but that really pissed me off more than the (many many) other times just because of how ridiculous the sight was of our cbs trying to run away from the ball in terror.

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Willo was fine against Lukaku in the away fixture last season. It was before he came on that the damage was done.

Pretty certain Colo has been at fault for at least 2 Lukaku goals against us down the years

 

Colo is shit scared of anyone with a physical presence. He's the biggest cowardly defender in the league. I really despise the cunt nearly as much as Saylor. He's a complete disgrace of a defender and a captain...Needs peddled soon as

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Willo was fine against Lukaku in the away fixture last season. It was before he came on that the damage was done.

Pretty certain Colo has been at fault for at least 2 Lukaku goals against us down the years

 

Colo is shit scared of anyone with a physical presence. He's the biggest cowardly defender in the league. I really despise the cunt nearly as much as Saylor. He's a complete disgrace of a defender and a captain...Needs peddled soon as

Ever since Davies and Elmander had him up against a tree at the Reebok.

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Reckon Sherwood will stick with Villa if they go down?

 

On a side note, we could use a Villa thread in honour of brummie.

 

Aye, i think he would.  i think he would love a crack at getting Villa promoted from that devision, moudling the team to his own design.

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