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steve_69

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Its catch 22 with managers and players when it comes to the whole going abroad thing because the money involved in the game here is, well, f***ing obscene. And its easy street. A rubbish player like say Colback can go from sunderland to Newcastle and pick up a s*** load of money and not even make the bench. A rubbish manager can lose his job and the week later get another cushy job.

 

Its down to stupid chairmen though. I'd only ever appoint Big Sam for example these days to keep my club up. I'd never appoint him long-term. Pardew wouldn't get a job under me at Gateshead for example, he's rubbish.

 

Anyway, I was working in Gateshead today, and they think Watson is alright...

 

British players staying in this country I understand, I don't agree with them but the vast majority of them are that thick and ignorant that they'd find integrating themselves into another culture very difficult. Unfortunately it also highlights the complete lack of ambition and motivation in some of them because they'd rather get splinters in their arses for £50k p/w than move somewhere they might actually get some game time.

For managers though, there's no excuse. Yes, the money is here but a lot of the British managers don't get any of it because they keep getting overlooked in favour of better candidates. So instead of doing something about it they take a cushy sofa job for a few months and spit out some cliched sob story at every opportunity.

Take Giggs for example, he's been looking for a job in the Premier League or Championship for what, 3-4 years??  Think what he could've achieved in that time - he could be fluent in German & Spanish and have 4 years worth of overseas coaching under his belt. Instead he still just has "I used to be Ryan Giggs" written on his managerial CV.

 

 

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Its catch 22 with managers and players when it comes to the whole going abroad thing because the money involved in the game here is, well, f***ing obscene. And its easy street. A rubbish player like say Colback can go from sunderland to Newcastle and pick up a s*** load of money and not even make the bench. A rubbish manager can lose his job and the week later get another cushy job.

 

Its down to stupid chairmen though. I'd only ever appoint Big Sam for example these days to keep my club up. I'd never appoint him long-term. Pardew wouldn't get a job under me at Gateshead for example, he's rubbish.

 

Anyway, I was working in Gateshead today, and they think Watson is alright...

 

British players staying in this country I understand, I don't agree with them but the vast majority of them are that thick and ignorant that they'd find integrating themselves into another culture very difficult. Unfortunately it also highlights the complete lack of ambition and motivation in some of them because they'd rather get splinters in their arses for £50k p/w than move somewhere they might actually get some game time.

For managers though, there's no excuse. Yes, the money is here but a lot of the British managers don't get any of it because they keep getting overlooked in favour of better candidates. So instead of doing something about it they take a cushy sofa job for a few months and spit out some cliched sob story at every opportunity.

Take Giggs for example, he's been looking for a job in the Premier League or Championship for what, 3-4 years??  Think what he could've achieved in that time - he could be fluent in German & Spanish and have 4 years worth of overseas coaching under his belt. Instead he still just has "I used to be Ryan Giggs" written on his managerial CV.

 

 

 

Agreed, especially RE Giggs, its like he is hoping his name will get him a job. I hope he does get a job soon and fails fucking miserably. If he manages as well as he manages punditry its guaranteed.

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Kimbo

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Ballague reckons that Everton have contacted Wolves' manager about him joining Everton but he wants to stay at Wolves

 

He doesn't want to go to a MASSIVE OLD club and play the Everton way? Maybe the tradition of mega-sexy football that they're known for intimidated him.

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For all that Wolves lot, the club is just a stepping stone. If Everton were not in such a fucking mess atm I’m sure Santo would go for it.

 

Would be delicious to see them get Allardyce or Dyche.

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For all that Wolves lot, the club is just a stepping stone. If Everton were not in such a f***ing mess atm I’m sure Santo would go for it.

 

Would be delicious to see them get Allardyce or Dyche.

 

Allardyce and Dyche are nothing special but they will keep them up. A really bad appointment and we could see the rot setting in and them getting relegated at some point in the next 3 years. If us and Villa can go down then so can Everton.

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Wolves are an absolutely minging club like, no idea why anyone would want them in the PL.

 

Even though it's rank and I throughly dislike the idea it would be canny amusing to see an agent led club packed full of foreign players, who have the cheek not to know the league, blitzing the Championship.

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Why don't some of these British managers go abroad for a bit, learn another language and some new tactics, take a spell at a lower league foreign club and actually show that they're willing to better themselves and gain some experience in order to secure a decent job in English football?

It's no different to any other industry - if you're not getting interviews or offers for roles on the next rung, you have two options - change industry or make yourself more attractive to potential employers. Don't just fucking moan to the press.

If I was a club owner i'd 100% go for a multi-lingual, tactically-astute, intelligent, experienced foreign manager over the likes of Tim Sherwood, Ryan Giggs, Alan Pardew etc. It's a total no-brainer!!

 

Until these fucking halfwits change their attitudes and their approach to the job market, they'll continue to be overlooked in favour of clearly superior options and rightly so.

 

The best PFM moaning I've heard about this was somebody, can't remember who, last season complaining that the clubs at the top of the Championship were mainly foreign managed and why weren't English managers being given these roles, as if David Wagner getting the Huddersfield gig had been an example of Johnny Foreigner getting a big job ahead of Joe Bloggs, rather than them coming in and dragging a small club into the top flight on merit.

 

Wagner had also served his time as an apprentice, assisting Klopp and managing the reserve team for Dortmund.  For the ex-players especially who are moaning about not getting the Chelsea job because they played in the Premier League 10 years ago, how many of them would be happy to take that route?

 

I'll give Giggs some credit for being Van Gaels number 2, but he seems to think because he did that for two years he should now go to the very top pile right away. 

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