nufcjb Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Why do.MannUtd always like this interim thing? Giggs has done it before. Wasn't Ole also there on temporary basis before getting it full time? Just hire someone immediately to sort the season out. By the way, if Bruce ever gets the.job and he fails horrendously like everyone knows he will, media will say the Geordies broke Steve Bruce. He was abused so badly he lost his touch. Damn you Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 All very tin-pot this 'interim' notion. Got OGS on a loan from Molde to begin with, fuck sake - who gets a manager in on loan. Richest club in world, aye well done. Hate to sight Simon Jordan as a spectrum of sense; Manchester United are being run as a business, and solely that - no sporting adventure at all - principally the same with Ashley and us. Man United's share price was so low going into Watford game, coming out off it with that result without sacking OGS would have cost MU hundreds of millions. OGS needed to be sacked to stabilise the market price of 'Manchester United'. If he wasn't sacked, when market opened Monday 'Manchester United' would have seen their value drop by hundreds of millions. It would have cost Glazer's money. As funny as it is to see Man U be fucking awful, and long may it continue; it's fare to say they are the first in football club in history that winning games, winning trophies actually doesn't matter; success for Manchester United is now defined at the boardroom level, not on the pitch. For that above reasoning I can feel for fans of that club; we had our soul ripped out by Ashley. It's no wonder those fans got a game stopped not ago. All I can say is, thank fuck we're now inside the tent pissing out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: All very tin-pot this 'interim' notion. Got OGS on a loan from Molde to begin with, fuck sake - who gets a manager in on loan. Richest club in world, aye well done. Hate to sight Simon Jordan as a spectrum of sense; Manchester United are being run as a business, and solely that - no sporting adventure at all - principally the same with Ashley and us. Man United's share price was so low going into Watford game, coming out off it with that result without sacking OGS would have cost MU hundreds of millions. OGS needed to be sacked to stabilise the market price of 'Manchester United'. If he wasn't sacked, when market opened Monday 'Manchester United' would have seen their value drop by hundreds of millions. It would have cost Glazer's money. As funny as it is to see Man U be fucking awful, and long may it continue; it's fare to say they are the first in football club in history that winning games, winning trophies actually doesn't matter; success for Manchester United is now defined at the boardroom level, not on the pitch. For that above reasoning I can feel for fans of that club; we had our soul ripped out by Ashley. It's no wonder those fans got a game stopped not ago. All I can say is, thank fuck we're now inside the tent pissing out... Well, they’re not. Plenty of others, but they don’t matter… It’s only apparently an issue worth raising when it’s Man Utd. A weird comment for an NUFC fan to make after the Ashley years. I must have forgotten all of the sympathy Man Utd fans gave us with Ashley. Fuck them. Hope they crash and burn. Edited November 23, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Well, they’re not. Plenty of others, but they don’t matter… It’s only apparently an issue worth raising when it’s Man Utd. A weird comment for an NUFC fan to make after the Ashley years. I must have forgotten all of the sympathy Man Utd fans gave us with Ashley. Fuck them. Hope they crash and burn. I think you're the one making it weird. I think it's quite clear the comparison, Ashley drained us for 15 years. Can understand MU fans voicing complaints that Glazer's are killing their club; Ronaldo signs in summer, they sell shares - when they drop too low, they finally sack OGS. Man U fans will always cry back to their culture, SAF; but it's never coming back. Man United won't win the league for another 10 years, but Glazer's will continue to drain money. It doesn't matter anymore if MU win the league, or finish 7th - as long as Glazer's protect their share price; that's principally Ashley's view point with us - as long as we stay up mentality. Owners having that approach to any club rips the soul from what truly means to support a club, and eventually destroys that 'football club' - don't care if it's us, Man United, Blackpool, Wimbledon, Bury, Charlton, list is endless... It's arrogant now to say; but I'm so pleased we've got the takeover, and now have 'fuck you money'. *sigh of relief* Interim manager is totally tin pot, let's not forget... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: I think you're the one making it weird. I think it's quite clear the comparison, Ashley drained us for 15 years. Can understand MU fans voicing complaints that Glazer's are killing their club; Ronaldo signs in summer, they sell shares - when they drop too low, they finally sack OGS. Man U fans will always cry back to their culture, SAF; but it's never coming back. Man United won't win the league for another 10 years, but Glazer's will continue to drain money. It doesn't matter anymore if MU win the league, or finish 7th - as long as Glazer's protect their share price; that's principally Ashley's view point with us - as long as we stay up mentality. Owners having that approach to any club rips the soul from what truly means to support a club, and eventually destroys that 'football club' - don't care if it's us, Man United, Blackpool, Wimbledon, Bury, Charlton, list is endless... It's arrogant now to say; but I'm so pleased we've got the takeover, and now have 'fuck you money'. *sigh of relief* Interim manager is totally tin pot, let's not forget... The point I was responding to was you saying Man Utd were the first club where winning trophies doesn’t matter. I was pointing out, they’re absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 These are almost as badly ran as we were during Ashley at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12475490/ed-woodward-manchester-united-executive-vice-chairman-could-delay-departure-to-help-appoint-new-manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: The point I was responding to was you saying Man Utd were the first club where winning trophies doesn’t matter. I was pointing out, they’re absolutely not. Glazer's situation with Man U is Ashley's wet dream. As long as sponsors role in, and fluff up the 'value' of Manchester United, finishing 2nd or 7th no longer matters. Lifting trophies, winning no longer matters. Winning and being a 'champion' can now be defined by a VAR decision; Glazer's see beyond that, just money. It's the same principles Ashley drained the life out of us on. Edited November 23, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12475490/ed-woodward-manchester-united-executive-vice-chairman-could-delay-departure-to-help-appoint-new-manager This would be terrible. He's the biggest yes man at the club and nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. Please fuck off Ed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Abra Dubravka said: Glazer's situation with Man U is Ashley's wet dream. As long as sponsors role in, and fluff up the 'value' of Manchester United, finishing 2nd or 7th no longer matters. Lifting trophies, winning no longer matters. Winning and being a 'champion' can now be defined by a VAR decision; Glazer's see beyond that, just money. It's the same principles Ashley drained the life out of us on. Problem is, it's not sustainable over a longer period....lack of success on the pitch eventually translates to lower sponsors, less money, and less power to get the players necessary for success. Admittedly it would take a long time for this apply to Man U, but Ashley demonstrated perfectly with us how easy it is to fall behind very quickly when all you're interested in is the profits. A bit more sensible investment from him, along with better choices of advisors at the beginning could have seen us comfortably on par with Tottenham now (new stadium aside) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Froggy said: nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. A typical man u fan then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, neesy111 said: These are almost as badly ran as we were during Ashley at times. I swear he's the one running them in the background somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Froggy said: This would be terrible. He's the biggest yes man at the club and nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. Please fuck off Ed. Woodward at Man U and Levy at Tottenham have been making a mess of the two clubs for seemingly ages now. It's allowed a lot of other clubs to catch up and instead of getting proper people in, instead they try to stop other club's takeovers or join super leagues to consolidate their positions. Farcical stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: Problem is, it's not sustainable over a longer period....lack of success on the pitch eventually translates to lower sponsors, less money, and less power to get the players necessary for success. Admittedly it would take a long time for this apply to Man U, but Ashley demonstrated perfectly with us how easy it is to fall behind very quickly when all you're interested in is the profits. A bit more sensible investment from him, along with better choices of advisors at the beginning could have seen us comfortably on par with Tottenham now (new stadium aside) Highlighted has become the definition of success for those that own Man United - and, rightfully fans hate it. Signing Ronaldo did more for Glazer's share price, and shirt sales than it did for OGS' dressing room, let alone plan of how to play. Man City, in the last 10 years have been a football club built to win on the pitch first, and the rest comes second. Chelsea, Liverpool have found right balance in last 5 years. All the while Man United blow everyone into the dirt commercially, but fail time and time again when it comes to the sporting aspect of running a football club. Ashley wasn't arsed if we finished 17th or 13th - Glazer's aren't arsed if Man United finish 2nd or 7th as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Principally I can see they are of the same mould Ashley was of. Manchester United are an advertising/brand vehicle now rather than being best of class. That's why I say, they are the first club of their size to give up on sporting venture. No longer being best on pitch is the driving factor. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter, Milan, Liverpool - historically European football's giants; not own of those clubs, through whatever strife has ever given up the pursuit of being the best they can be on the pitch. Man United letting this season slide, interim - loaning OGS as an interim those years ago - tells me people who really run MU don't give a shit what happens on pitch as long as the club is making them money. Like I say, Mike Ashley's wet dream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: Highlighted has become the definition of success for those that own Man United - and, rightfully fans hate it. Signing Ronaldo did more for Glazer's share price, and shirt sales than it did for OGS' dressing room, let alone plan of how to play. Man City, in the last 10 years have been a football club built to win on the pitch first, and the rest comes second. Chelsea, Liverpool have found right balance in last 5 years. All the while Man United blow everyone into the dirt commercially, but fail time and time again when it comes to the sporting aspect of running a football club. Ashley wasn't arsed if we finished 17th or 13th - Glazer's aren't arsed if Man United finish 2nd or 7th as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom line. Principally I can see they are of the same mould Ashley was of. Manchester United are an advertising/brand vehicle now rather than being best of class. That's why I say, they are the first club of their size to give up on sporting venture. No longer being best on pitch is the driving factor. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Inter, Milan, Liverpool - historically European football's giants; not own of those clubs, through whatever strife has ever given up the pursuit of being the best they can be on the pitch. Man United letting this season slide, interim - loaning OGS as an interim those years ago - tells me people who really run MU don't give a shit what happens on pitch as long as the club is making them money. Like I say, Mike Ashley's wet dream. This is exactly the point though...5/6 years just around 5/6/7 will start to hurt their bottom line eventually. Their sponsors will start dropping, their appeal abroad will start dropping in favour of teams that win things, and before you know it their signing Longstaff on a free to solidify their midfield Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Froggy said: This would be terrible. He's the biggest yes man at the club and nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. Please fuck off Ed. I always found the criticism of executives etc being yes men for the owners a bit odd of coarse he is that's why they appointed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, gjohnson said: This is exactly the point though...5/6 years just around 5/6/7 will start to hurt their bottom line eventually. Their sponsors will start dropping, their appeal abroad will start dropping in favour of teams that win things, and before you know it their signing Longstaff on a free to solidify their midfield That's going on my list to Santa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Apparently Sir Alex is pushing for Bruce coming in as interim manager Guys ... I think Santa might be real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Would we get our compensation back if the 3 Steves ended up at Man U? Obviously not all of it, but at least a few months worth if nowt else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Bruce IN! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, KaKa said: Apparently Sir Alex is pushing for Bruce coming in as interim manager Guys ... I think Santa might be real Yeah right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Wandy said: Yeah right. I don't know who runs football insider but it might have just become my favourite site https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-sir-alex-throws-his-weight-behind-man-united-appointing/ Apparently Ronaldo is also intimidating everyone with his moaning and whinging on the pitch, which was the most predictable thing ever. https://www.footballinsider247.com/man-united-ronaldo-dressing-room-fears/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 If Fergie truly wants Bruce, then I really do think that the brain injury scare he had a few years ago has messed with his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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