The Managerial Merry Go Round™ - Frank in at Tottenham

[El Prontonise]

16 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

 

I was quite taken aback by its savagery. I'd have thought that the Sports Editor would have got him to tone it down.

 

I also think he got it wrong in essence. I don't think Ange has a false image that he's created for himself, as I think is being implied. I think he's a bit thin-skinned, and stubborn when it comes to dealing with criticism, or even advice. He's struggled to live up to his own ideals, but I don't see him as a phoney.

 

Sports editors basically don't exist nowadays with how razor tight income is now.

[Deuce]

5 hours ago, Mike said:

Shudder to think who our manager would be right now if not for the takeover.

Colback, straight off an early retirement 

[Turnbull2000]

14 hours ago, gbandit said:

He’s got a strong vindictive streak does Liew

 

He's a complete bellend. I mean, just look at his view on biological men competing in women's sports. He thinks it would be 'wonderful' if they dominated against biological women.

[gazza ladra]

14 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Probably the most obnoxious twonk in the whole business. Stiff competition, obviously. 

 

Ange made a rod for his own back with the media, mind. Made himself prey for the more toxic commentators.

The key word / concept that Liew kept returning to was "bullshit".

 

Vindicative or not he was right. Ange is the embodiment of a bullshit artist. I don't mind seeing clowns like him mocked. Need more bullshiters called out. Sick of the fucking excuse-laden apologia for Pardew, Bruce, and the rest. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by gazza ladra

[tgarve]

3 minutes ago, gazza ladra said:

The key word / concept that Liew kept returning to was "bullshit".

 

Vindicative or not he was right. Ange is the embodiment of a bullshit artist. I don't mind seeing clowns like him mocked. Need more bullshiters called out. Sick of the fucking excuse-laden apologia for Pardew, Bruce, and the rest. 

 

 

 

 

 

Nar I think Ange is different to them and this article is ridiculously harsh

[gazza ladra]

7 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Nar I think Ange is different to them and this article is ridiculously harsh

Spurs have the third largest net spend in the league over the past 5 years. They finished 17th.

 

[aussiemag]

Ange has won the a-league, j-league, Asian Cup, Scottish League, all Scottish cups and the Europa League. It’s not a fluke that he has had success wherever he’s been. Hes not a bullshit artist. Yes, the league form for spurs was unacceptable last season. But the injury situation was terrible and the losses affected the players confidence. Maybe the Premier League level is too high for Ange. A third season would have confirmed or debunked that theory. But he’s not a bullshit artist. 

[The College Dropout]

Ange has had a good career. He doesn’t deserve that from a fucking journalist.  
 

 

I don’t even think Bruce deserves stuff like that.  But if a professional footballer wants to stick the boot in - fine - they were colleges at least and they have first had experience of them.  But a journalist? Get to fuck. 

[Cronky]

9 hours ago, aussiemag said:

Maybe the Premier League level is too high for Ange. 

 

I don't think it is, but in order to adjust to the Premier League, he needed to reassess his ideas, go on a learning curve and adapt. He didn't seem willing to do that, and reacted badly to criticism. 

[aussiemag]

39 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

I don't think it is, but in order to adjust to the Premier League, he needed to reassess his ideas, go on a learning curve and adapt. He didn't seem willing to do that, and reacted badly to criticism. 

This is the same reason he quit as Australia coach. He couldn’t handle criticism and refused to change his tactics when performances dropped. 

[Theregulars]

Whole thing was just dripping of a personal agenda, obviously Ange took the piss out of him or something. 

[joeyt]

 

 

[Stal]

57 minutes ago, joeyt said:

 

 

 

Bit pointless, they'll just hire him back in 18 months.

 

[Ben]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

 

 

Daft that, 24 points above Sunderland and a fanny's whisker away from promotion, unless they have Klopp lined up they should be backing him not sacking.

[Cronky]

2 hours ago, aussiemag said:

This is the same reason he quit as Australia coach. He couldn’t handle criticism and refused to change his tactics when performances dropped. 

 

That's interesting, I didn't know that.

 

Ange always seemed to be alone on the touchline. I can't remember seeing him in conversation with another coach, exchanging ideas, and I'm not aware of any particular sidekick / mentor who has worked in close partnership with him. Clough had his Taylor, Ferguson relied on a series of assistants, and of course Eddie has his Mad Dog. Things started off well at Spurs, but when problems arose, I wondered whether he had anyone to turn to for advice or to bounce ideas off?  He's been a big fish in a number of smaller ponds, and maybe he's used to being smarter than those around him or those in opposition to him. The Premier League, of course, is different.

[Optimistic Nut]

22 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

Daft that, 24 points above Sunderland and a fanny's whisker away from promotion, unless they have Klopp lined up they should be backing him not sacking.

 

Outside looking in it would seem a crazy choice. If they got 90 points again next season they'll probably go up. 

[tgarve]

6 hours ago, aussiemag said:

This is the same reason he quit as Australia coach. He couldn’t handle criticism and refused to change his tactics when performances dropped. 

That’s absolutely not true. He left because he wanted to build something long term , and he felt all the fed wanted was to get into the World Cup 

[Joe1984]

5 hours ago, Stal said:

 

Bit pointless, they'll just hire him back in 18 months.

 

But Wilder will get his contract money he's owed.

 

Then retired in 18 months.

 

Sure he's fine with that... 😁

[tarie4]

Thomas Frank new spurs manager confirmed.

[Bizza]

Simon Grayson in at Hartlepool

[Ben]

1 minute ago, tarie4 said:

Thomas Frank new spurs manager confirmed.

 

 

[joeyt]

Looking forward to Disco being Brentford's number 1 fan now

[54]

I'm guessing Frank will go down as a legend at Brentford right? It's weird as due to the way they operate, it feels like they don't really attach themselves to players and staff members, a bit like Brighton.

[Disco]

40 minutes ago, joeyt said:

Looking forward to Disco being Brentford's number 1 fan now

Always loved big Phil Giles data led approach in the boardroom and club legend (checks notes) Konstantin Kerschbaumer. 

[Fak]

Simon Grayson at Hartlepool.