Elbel1 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: If they can’t pry Poch away now, they’ll get him over the summer. Someone like Carrick or Rooney in the interim. If Giggs didn’t have a shot at the WC with Wales, he’d be my bet for the interim gig. I think the upcoming court appearance rules out Giggs more than anything Wales may or may not be doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Can we stop entertaining the idea that we would ever hire Bruce. Stranger things have happened. And if we all pray really hard it just might… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: If they can’t pry Poch away now, they’ll get him over the summer. Someone like Carrick or Rooney in the interim. If Giggs didn’t have a shot at the WC with Wales, he’d be my bet for the interim gig. Giggs hasn’t managed Wales for ages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbel1 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Giggs hasn’t managed Wales for ages But when he did there wasn't any need to focus on his defence as he liked to come out swinging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Red Cafe? Horrendous place. Aye, that was the place! Out of interest where would you rank them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Giggs hasn’t managed Wales for ages Still technically the manager though isn’t he? Don’t think he was formally sacked. Regardess, he’ll not be in the frame for ManU as long as he has charges pending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 59 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: Aye, that was the place! Out of interest where would you rank them? Mourinho Ole Van Gaal Moyes I really didn't like Mourinho either, but unfortunately can't overlook how awful we have been this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 No worries, Bruce will top the lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 It'll take Bruce at Man Utd for the pundit class to own up and admit he's not a premier league manager. He'll still have apologists. But they won't lose their jobs. Incompetents look out for one another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, gazza ladra said: It'll take Bruce at Man Utd for the pundit class to own up and admit he's not a premier league manager. He'll still have apologists. But they won't lose their jobs. Incompetents look out for one another. OGS was never a Premier League manager, and was never being linked with jobs since whimpering back to Molde after relegating Cardiff. Similarly, Bruce was never a Premier League manager. He was finished at PL by time Ashley throw him a bone, he was finished at PL by time he took Villa job, let alone failing there and pitching up at Sheff Wed. We can all see that; fans off all above clubs mentioned can see and appreciate this - but it's far too candid of an opinion for media to be pushing, especially considering the best-buds nature between Bruce and seemingly everyone aside from Stan Collymore. End of the day, Bruce will never be interim at Man United. That being said, it's hilarious seeing the levels of Emperor's New Clothes with him even being linked by the loon Sol Campbell - everyone knows he's a bag of shit as a manager, and always has been; but you can't go round saying it unless he's had the misfortune of managing your club - especially if he's a media darling, and club legend. Edited November 22, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Froggy said: Red Cafe? Horrendous place. Full of cunts, for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Why do.MannUtd always like this interim thing? Giggs has done it before. Wasn't Ole also there on temporary basis before getting it full time? Just hire someone immediately to sort the season out. By the way, if Bruce ever gets the.job and he fails horrendously like everyone knows he will, media will say the Geordies broke Steve Bruce. He was abused so badly he lost his touch. Damn you Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 All very tin-pot this 'interim' notion. Got OGS on a loan from Molde to begin with, fuck sake - who gets a manager in on loan. Richest club in world, aye well done. Hate to sight Simon Jordan as a spectrum of sense; Manchester United are being run as a business, and solely that - no sporting adventure at all - principally the same with Ashley and us. Man United's share price was so low going into Watford game, coming out off it with that result without sacking OGS would have cost MU hundreds of millions. OGS needed to be sacked to stabilise the market price of 'Manchester United'. If he wasn't sacked, when market opened Monday 'Manchester United' would have seen their value drop by hundreds of millions. It would have cost Glazer's money. As funny as it is to see Man U be fucking awful, and long may it continue; it's fare to say they are the first in football club in history that winning games, winning trophies actually doesn't matter; success for Manchester United is now defined at the boardroom level, not on the pitch. For that above reasoning I can feel for fans of that club; we had our soul ripped out by Ashley. It's no wonder those fans got a game stopped not ago. All I can say is, thank fuck we're now inside the tent pissing out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: All very tin-pot this 'interim' notion. Got OGS on a loan from Molde to begin with, fuck sake - who gets a manager in on loan. Richest club in world, aye well done. Hate to sight Simon Jordan as a spectrum of sense; Manchester United are being run as a business, and solely that - no sporting adventure at all - principally the same with Ashley and us. Man United's share price was so low going into Watford game, coming out off it with that result without sacking OGS would have cost MU hundreds of millions. OGS needed to be sacked to stabilise the market price of 'Manchester United'. If he wasn't sacked, when market opened Monday 'Manchester United' would have seen their value drop by hundreds of millions. It would have cost Glazer's money. As funny as it is to see Man U be fucking awful, and long may it continue; it's fare to say they are the first in football club in history that winning games, winning trophies actually doesn't matter; success for Manchester United is now defined at the boardroom level, not on the pitch. For that above reasoning I can feel for fans of that club; we had our soul ripped out by Ashley. It's no wonder those fans got a game stopped not ago. All I can say is, thank fuck we're now inside the tent pissing out... Well, they’re not. Plenty of others, but they don’t matter… It’s only apparently an issue worth raising when it’s Man Utd. A weird comment for an NUFC fan to make after the Ashley years. I must have forgotten all of the sympathy Man Utd fans gave us with Ashley. Fuck them. Hope they crash and burn. Edited November 23, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Well, they’re not. Plenty of others, but they don’t matter… It’s only apparently an issue worth raising when it’s Man Utd. A weird comment for an NUFC fan to make after the Ashley years. I must have forgotten all of the sympathy Man Utd fans gave us with Ashley. Fuck them. Hope they crash and burn. I think you're the one making it weird. I think it's quite clear the comparison, Ashley drained us for 15 years. Can understand MU fans voicing complaints that Glazer's are killing their club; Ronaldo signs in summer, they sell shares - when they drop too low, they finally sack OGS. Man U fans will always cry back to their culture, SAF; but it's never coming back. Man United won't win the league for another 10 years, but Glazer's will continue to drain money. It doesn't matter anymore if MU win the league, or finish 7th - as long as Glazer's protect their share price; that's principally Ashley's view point with us - as long as we stay up mentality. Owners having that approach to any club rips the soul from what truly means to support a club, and eventually destroys that 'football club' - don't care if it's us, Man United, Blackpool, Wimbledon, Bury, Charlton, list is endless... It's arrogant now to say; but I'm so pleased we've got the takeover, and now have 'fuck you money'. *sigh of relief* Interim manager is totally tin pot, let's not forget... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Abra Dubravka said: I think you're the one making it weird. I think it's quite clear the comparison, Ashley drained us for 15 years. Can understand MU fans voicing complaints that Glazer's are killing their club; Ronaldo signs in summer, they sell shares - when they drop too low, they finally sack OGS. Man U fans will always cry back to their culture, SAF; but it's never coming back. Man United won't win the league for another 10 years, but Glazer's will continue to drain money. It doesn't matter anymore if MU win the league, or finish 7th - as long as Glazer's protect their share price; that's principally Ashley's view point with us - as long as we stay up mentality. Owners having that approach to any club rips the soul from what truly means to support a club, and eventually destroys that 'football club' - don't care if it's us, Man United, Blackpool, Wimbledon, Bury, Charlton, list is endless... It's arrogant now to say; but I'm so pleased we've got the takeover, and now have 'fuck you money'. *sigh of relief* Interim manager is totally tin pot, let's not forget... The point I was responding to was you saying Man Utd were the first club where winning trophies doesn’t matter. I was pointing out, they’re absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 These are almost as badly ran as we were during Ashley at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12475490/ed-woodward-manchester-united-executive-vice-chairman-could-delay-departure-to-help-appoint-new-manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abra Dubravka Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: The point I was responding to was you saying Man Utd were the first club where winning trophies doesn’t matter. I was pointing out, they’re absolutely not. Glazer's situation with Man U is Ashley's wet dream. As long as sponsors role in, and fluff up the 'value' of Manchester United, finishing 2nd or 7th no longer matters. Lifting trophies, winning no longer matters. Winning and being a 'champion' can now be defined by a VAR decision; Glazer's see beyond that, just money. It's the same principles Ashley drained the life out of us on. Edited November 23, 2021 by Abra Dubravka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/12475490/ed-woodward-manchester-united-executive-vice-chairman-could-delay-departure-to-help-appoint-new-manager This would be terrible. He's the biggest yes man at the club and nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. Please fuck off Ed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Abra Dubravka said: Glazer's situation with Man U is Ashley's wet dream. As long as sponsors role in, and fluff up the 'value' of Manchester United, finishing 2nd or 7th no longer matters. Lifting trophies, winning no longer matters. Winning and being a 'champion' can now be defined by a VAR decision; Glazer's see beyond that, just money. It's the same principles Ashley drained the life out of us on. Problem is, it's not sustainable over a longer period....lack of success on the pitch eventually translates to lower sponsors, less money, and less power to get the players necessary for success. Admittedly it would take a long time for this apply to Man U, but Ashley demonstrated perfectly with us how easy it is to fall behind very quickly when all you're interested in is the profits. A bit more sensible investment from him, along with better choices of advisors at the beginning could have seen us comfortably on par with Tottenham now (new stadium aside) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, Froggy said: nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. A typical man u fan then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, neesy111 said: These are almost as badly ran as we were during Ashley at times. I swear he's the one running them in the background somehow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Froggy said: This would be terrible. He's the biggest yes man at the club and nothing but a Glazer puppet who knows fuck all about football. Please fuck off Ed. Woodward at Man U and Levy at Tottenham have been making a mess of the two clubs for seemingly ages now. It's allowed a lot of other clubs to catch up and instead of getting proper people in, instead they try to stop other club's takeovers or join super leagues to consolidate their positions. Farcical stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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