The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[brummie]

9 minutes ago, HTT II said:

How did Houllier do, I can’t remember much from back then?

We were dog shit all season, arse end of the table. Then he got ill, Gary Macallister took over and we finished ninth. The football under houllier was getting better. It was his constant talking about Liverpool (including tapping the This is Anfield thing on the tunnel when we played there), that was the problem. Nauseating. 

[brummie]

13 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

You think Smith losing Terry has had an impact as well? 

definitely. The defence has gone to total shit. 

[Dokko]

Just now, brummie said:

We were dog shit all season, arse end of the table. Then he got ill, Gary Macallister took over and we finished ninth. The football under houllier was getting better. It was his constant talking about Liverpool (including tapping the This is Anfield thing on the tunnel when we played there), that was the problem. Nauseating. 

Remember Souness doing the same for us the horrible cunt.

[Tiresias]

51 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I don’t get the hate for Lampard like, it’s weird, he’s done relatively well in his only two jobs and now all of a sudden he’s another Bruce? ‘Kin hell 

 

Yeah hate is unfair, he hasn't done terrible jobs, it's just a reaction against the chummy media crew trying to get him jobs. As I mentioned before his defensive problems with Chelsea were entirely his own making though. Tuchel sorted out the defense in one training session and they were suddenly incredibly solid. He froze out Rudiger who now looks one of the best cbs in the league (if not europe). It's a weird blind spot to have and you would hope he can sort that out in future jobs. 

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, brummie said:

We were dog shit all season, arse end of the table. Then he got ill, Gary Macallister took over and we finished ninth. The football under houllier was getting better. It was his constant talking about Liverpool (including tapping the This is Anfield thing on the tunnel when we played there), that was the problem. Nauseating. 

Sounds ultimately grim, shame  as I liked Houllier and rated him as a manager.

[brummie]

1 minute ago, HTT II said:

Sounds ultimately grim, shame  as I liked Houllier and rated him as a manager.

Turned out it was like 1981/82 for us given who came next. 

[Billy Pilgrim]

Gerrard at Villa is gonna be comedy for the ages 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2021 by Billy Pilgrim

[Ben]

9 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Gerrard at Villa is gonna be comedy for the ages 

 

 

 

Does shit gets sacked

 

Does good moves to Liverpool 

[Fantail Breeze]

Now Bruce, Farke and Smith have been sacked, is there a worse PL manager than OGS?

 

Maybe, Dyche? 

[54]

4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Now Bruce, Farke and Smith have been sacked, is there a worse PL manager than OGS?

 

Maybe, Dyche? 

I may absolute detest his style of play, but OGS can only dream of being the quality of Dyche. 

[Guest neesy111]

19 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Now Bruce, Farke and Smith have been sacked, is there a worse PL manager than OGS?

 

Maybe, Dyche? 

Nah, Dyche is brilliant for what Burnley need.

[gbandit]

Rodgers to Man U is getting a lot of media coverage, there’s supposedly a verbal agreement in place for him to take over, the question is when 

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, gbandit said:

Rodgers to Man U is getting a lot of media coverage, there’s supposedly a verbal agreement in place for him to take over, the question is when 

He will fail there IMO, said it here first for prosperity!

[Fantail Breeze]

9 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Rodgers to Man U is getting a lot of media coverage, there’s supposedly a verbal agreement in place for him to take over, the question is when 

 

If we start taking “CaughtOffside” as a reliable source…  

[joeyt]

Read a short while ago that Rodgers is admired by Man City so might hang on at Leicester until Pep goes next season

[Fantail Breeze]

Is Rodgers even that good?

 

His teams seem to completely collapse at the end of the season. Liverpool failing to win the league and Leicester twice missing out on the top four.

 

FA Cup win was good and he did well with Celtic, but also seems to have a lot of limitations. They’ve been crap this season and could end up limping out of Europa League for the second season soon too. 

[Deuce]

1 hour ago, HTT II said:

He will fail there IMO, said it here first for prosperity!

getting paid for your predictions eh

[brummie]

6 hours ago, toon25 said:

I hate Villa, sorry Brummie.

 

That's alright man, I hate my mother in law but I still love the Mrs.

[brummie]

41 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

Is Rodgers even that good?

 

His teams seem to completely collapse at the end of the season. Liverpool failing to win the league and Leicester twice missing out on the top four.

 

FA Cup win was good and he did well with Celtic, but also seems to have a lot of limitations. They’ve been crap this season and could end up limping out of Europa League for the second season soon too. 

 

Rodgers is a good manager, but i can't ever quite get over the fact that he got comprehensively bamboozled by 'Tactics' Tim Sherwood when we beat them in the FAC semi final.

[Fantail Breeze]

4 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

That's alright man, I hate my mother in law but I still love the Mrs.

 

If you end up with Gerrard, I’d expect that to end up in a relegation battle.

Why did Terry leave, by the way? Didn’t even notice that happen.

[brummie]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

 

If you end up with Gerrard, I’d expect that to end up in a relegation battle.

Why did Terry leave, by the way? Didn’t even notice that happen.

 

Said he thought the time was right for him to move in a management role somewhere and that if he stayed on, he'd be misleading the club in terms of what he wanted to be doing.

 

I'll be totally honest, before Terry joined us as a player, I hated him, like all non Chelsea fans do. For obvious reasons.

 

But in the time he spent playing with us in the Championship, he was absolutely magnificent - yes, of course he was the best centre half in the league, but he was a leader, and his attitude was absolutely spot on, when a lot of players in his position would have just come for a final pay cheque. You saw from his attitude alone why he had had such an incredible career as a player.

 

He will always be about Chelsea, but he absolutely gave the club nothing but respect, and totally won over a cynical fan base. 

 

When he then went into a coaching role, he got the defence playing extremely well, and was clearly a belts-and-braces coach - ie, totally in. No half measures.

 

I am aware of all the arguments to the contrary in terms of his character and the shagging and racism stuff but he showed in a single year playing for us, the difference between the top clubs and the way their players are, and the rest of us.

 

 

[Ben]

Villa want Howe ? 

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, brummie said:

 

Said he thought the time was right for him to move in a management role somewhere and that if he stayed on, he'd be misleading the club in terms of what he wanted to be doing.

 

I'll be totally honest, before Terry joined us as a player, I hated him, like all non Chelsea fans do. For obvious reasons.

 

But in the time he spent playing with us in the Championship, he was absolutely magnificent - yes, of course he was the best centre half in the league, but he was a leader, and his attitude was absolutely spot on, when a lot of players in his position would have just come for a final pay cheque. You saw from his attitude alone why he had had such an incredible career as a player.

 

He will always be about Chelsea, but he absolutely gave the club nothing but respect, and totally won over a cynical fan base. 

 

When he then went into a coaching role, he got the defence playing extremely well, and was clearly a belts-and-braces coach - ie, totally in. No half measures.

 

I am aware of all the arguments to the contrary in terms of his character and the shagging and racism stuff but he showed in a single year playing for us, the difference between the top clubs and the way their players are, and the rest of us.

 

 

 

 Sounds like he has great credentials for a management role then.

 

He also seems to have quite a bit of loyalty and standards in playing/coaching football, which is quite ironic when you consider his personal life.

[SUPERTOON]

Do you expect Villa to have someone lined up already or will take the international break to get someone in ?

[brummie]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Do you expect Villa to have someone lined up already or will take the international break to get someone in ?

 

I'd bet everything I own they have someone ready. Craig Shakespeare, the assistant, has also gone today. If there was nobody lined up, he'd be into the caretaker role.

 

All this is very sad. At the end of the day, he joined us 18th or something in the Championship, won 10 in a row, got us promoted, got us to the LC final, kept us up, got us into a decent mid table slot, is a Villa fan through and through (lost his Dad this year, who was a steward at the club for years). I can't ever remember thinking that a sacking was the right thing to do, but also feeling so sick about it. Brian Little is the only possible comparison for me.

 

I do think, though, that with big money and investment as we have had, comes bigger expectations, and although he effectively played a bit part in saving the club (that's why Villa fans worshipped Graham Taylor. Not because he got us second in the first division, because he literally saved the club), it has been really clear that he is not capable of taking us further at the current time.

 

Compared to that shallow fuck Bruce, it was night and day.