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Given how much the SF49s own Leeds and want to expand further into the club it’s not hard to link why a reputable manager of brand loving quality was number one target.

 

Whilst it is always funny to see a “soccer” bro fail I would fucking love them to go to down in the shittest of circumstances. 

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20 minutes ago, Wullie said:

Farke leaves Krasnodar without managing a game.

 

"Which manager was sacked from one club and resigned from his next one despite being unbeaten on both occassions?"
 

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11 hours ago, Disco said:

Given how much the SF49s own Leeds and want to expand further into the club it’s not hard to link why a reputable manager of brand loving quality was number one target.

 

Whilst it is always funny to see a “soccer” bro fail I would fucking love them to go to down in the shittest of circumstances. 

 

why is it funny to see a "soccer" bro fail - what has Marsch done to you? 

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I don't want Leeds to go down. A lot of their fans are snides but they are a proper football club with strong support. The Leeds friends I have are all sound tbf. 

 

Really want Everton to go down. So deluded on their forum. Blaming Rafa if they go down. He left them on 19 points after 19 games. Hardly fucked in that position. 

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7 hours ago, samptime29 said:

I don't want Leeds to go down. A lot of their fans are snides but they are a proper football club with strong support. The Leeds friends I have are all sound tbf. 

 

Really want Everton to go down. So deluded on their forum. Blaming Rafa if they go down. He left them on 19 points after 19 games. Hardly fucked in that position. 

 

Benitez has done serious damage to that squad, mind. Ostracised and got rid of Rodriguez at the first opportunity, fell out with and sold Digne as well as signed Rondon who is clearly past it. Injuries haven't helped them by any means, but Benitez is not blameless whatsoever for their struggles this season.

 

Club should've never appointed him in the first place.

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4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Benitez has done serious damage to that squad, mind. Ostracised and got rid of Rodriguez at the first opportunity, fell out with and sold Digne as well as signed Rondon who is clearly past it. Injuries haven't helped them by any means, but Benitez is not blameless whatsoever for their struggles this season.

 

Club should've never appointed him in the first place.

 

Rafa isn't blameless but they were on 1 point per game average when he left and with half the season to go. Plenty of time to save themselves.

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19 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Benitez has done serious damage to that squad, mind. Ostracised and got rid of Rodriguez at the first opportunity, fell out with and sold Digne as well as signed Rondon who is clearly past it. Injuries haven't helped them by any means, but Benitez is not blameless whatsoever for their struggles this season.

 

Club should've never appointed him in the first place.

 

They shouldn't and he shouldn't have accepted. 

 

That said, I do have one major concern with Lampard and this Everton squad and that's defending. Everton don't really have any quality at centre-back and Lampard's previous teams weren't that strong defensively. Those fine margins can be quite decisive down the bottom of the table and he's already on scored 8 conceded 7 after five games. If that scale tips the wrong way they'll be firmly in the mucky stuff.

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1 hour ago, samptime29 said:

 

Rafa isn't blameless but they were on 1 point per game average when he left and with half the season to go. Plenty of time to save themselves.

 

But being in a relegation battle with that squad is a sackable offence for an Everton manager. Previous managers have failed with that team, but not to the extent Benitez did. Being on 1 point a game isn't a positive. 

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8 hours ago, samptime29 said:

I don't want Leeds to go down. A lot of their fans are snides but they are a proper football club with strong support. The Leeds friends I have are all sound tbf. 

 

Really want Everton to go down. So deluded on their forum. Blaming Rafa if they go down. He left them on 19 points after 19 games. Hardly fucked in that position. 

 

It's not really fair to criticize Everton fans for blaming Rafa if they go down. They follow their club closer than we do. Remember the flak we got for outing Sam Allardyce? He had 7 wins, 5 draws and 9 losses (26 points in 21 matches) in the league but we all knew where we were headed if we hadn't sacked him.

 

Keegan came in and didn't record a win in his 8 first matches (2 draws, 6 losses). Lampard got his first league win in his 3rd match. 

 

If we had gone down with Keegan that year, I guarantee you the majority of fans would have had one guy to blame, and it ain't Kevin Keegan :lol: 

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7 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

But being in a relegation battle with that squad is a sackable offence for an Everton manager. Previous managers have failed with that team, but not to the extent Benitez did. Being on 1 point a game isn't a positive. 

 

They were 6 points ahead of 18th with 2 games in hand, when he was sacked. I've not saying 1 point per game is a positive in comparison to expectations but they likely need 16 points from 19 games to stay up when Rafa isn't there. 

 

If they can't achieve that it's clearly not Rafa's fault, especially considering DCL is back now and Rafa never had him because of injury.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Disco said:

Never knew Jon Richardson was such a big Leeds fan. Gone up in my estimation.

I think he’s great me!

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Won’t be good for his ginger skin.

 

Very late to the Leeds chatter but we absolutely can’t have Americans telling us how to play football, particularly when replacing El Loco. Them or Everton going down would be brilliant.

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On 04/03/2022 at 01:02, Yorkie said:

 

Like listening to us lot after Rafa went. 

 

Really enjoyed that. Its exactly the sentiment I hear from Leeds fans at work etc. Hard to explain but when Richardson said its been a well run time for the club under Bielsa and the feeling like a lot has ended that they may never get back again, and the other guy saying they now feel more ordinary now he's gone is exactly what Leeds fans were worried about despite knowing the results meant it was going to be the end. Very reminiscent of Rafa for Newcastle fans I'm sure. Definitely for me anyway. I think Leeds' fans love for Bielsa and what he turned the club in to is probably even greater than how we felt about Rafa when he left.

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