Froggy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Looks increasingly likely that Ten Hag will be our new manager in the summer. Prefer him to Poch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Froggy said: Looks increasingly likely that Ten Hag will be our new manager in the summer. Prefer him to Poch. Will he bring Overmars and his coaching team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 It's a risky one, but he's been impressive at Ajax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ben said: Will he bring Overmars and his coaching team ? I think Rangnick will do the role Overmars does? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Personally think both he and Pochettino would be brilliant appointments for Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) Personally think what Poch achieved at Spurs was incredible and he'd be a more tried and tested fit. Ten Hag looks great, but is still relatively unproven. Edited March 24, 2022 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I know nothing of the Ajax manager, but Poch would be a top appointment. The problem with Man Utd, however, isn’t the manager, it’s the entire culture and structure of the club right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Overmars got done for being a creep, lost his job at Ajax Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Overmars has just joined Royal Antwerp hasn’t he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: I think Rangnick will do the role Overmars does? This. There is rumours that ETH would want to bring a Dutch coach in though, with the names mentioned being Stam, van Persie or van Nistelrooy. ETH is the overwhelming preference for the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Out of curiosity, what do you think is the main factor holding Man U back from winning trophies currently? Obviously the board is pretty rotten but what specifically are their biggest mistakes? Managers, quality of signings, lack of signings, not having a DOF, not having a clear culture through out the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Joey47 said: Obviously the board is pretty rotten but what specifically are their biggest mistakes? Managers, quality of signings, lack of signings, not having a DOF, not having a clear culture through out the club? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Joey47 said: Out of curiosity, what do you think is the main factor holding Man U back from winning trophies currently? Obviously the board is pretty rotten but what specifically are their biggest mistakes? Managers, quality of signings, lack of signings, not having a DOF, not having a clear culture through out the club? Specifically - the board. The owners don’t know what they’re doing. The people they’ve entrusted to run the club don’t know what they’re doing. they’ve let Old Trafford decay too. Edited March 25, 2022 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey47 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Obviously can only speculate but will Rangnick solve these problems when he moves up to a director role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joey47 said: Obviously can only speculate but will Rangnick solve these problems when he moves up to a director role? No. Maybe the person replacing Woodward can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Joey47 said: Out of curiosity, what do you think is the main factor holding Man U back from winning trophies currently? Obviously the board is pretty rotten but what specifically are their biggest mistakes? Managers, quality of signings, lack of signings, not having a DOF, not having a clear culture through out the club? There's a theory that when a system gets too complex it's collapse is inevitable. This looks very like Man Utd now. Trying too hard to get the best of everything with no thought on how everything will work together and just hoping things will work out. It's the Freddy Shephard method with an extra 0 on the salary. No plan, just reacting to current issues. Total hangover from Ferguson, who was clearly a once in a lifetime manager. They seem to be looking for that again, the problem being is that it just doesn't exist at the current time. Could say the same with Arsenal who relied on Wenger so long, they didn't know what to do when he left and then chopped and changed for so long. They are going in the right direction with Arteta, but would say its virtually impossible now to pluck a manager from obscurity that will shock the league with new tactics/methods Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Is because they make snap commercial decisions on signings and seem to lack any long term strategy. Glaser's aren't really arsed if they win the league as long as they can make money out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Constantly trying to reignite the glory years using short terms fixes, shit decisions, heart over head appointments and poor recruitment. With Rangnick and Ten Haag they'll have a team capable of developing and delivering a 5-10 year plan designed to take them back to the top - scouting and developing quality youth players and coaching a cohesive style from youth teams up, Ajax/Barcelon/Man City-style. If the plan was clearly communicated to the fans you'd hope they'd buy in and temper their immediate expectations. If they bring in Ten Haag expecting immediate success and challenging for the top 4 i think they'll be disappointed. There's a lot of rot to remove before that can happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: Is because they make snap commercial decisions on signings and seem to lack any long term strategy. Glaser's aren't really arsed if they win the league as long as they can make money out of it. This. Sod them...go 5 years without a trophy and they're 'long suffering'. Give them 14 years of Ashley and they'll know real suffering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 22 hours ago, Holmesy said: Constantly trying to reignite the glory years using short terms fixes, shit decisions, heart over head appointments and poor recruitment. With Rangnick and Ten Haag they'll have a team capable of developing and delivering a 5-10 year plan designed to take them back to the top - scouting and developing quality youth players and coaching a cohesive style from youth teams up, Ajax/Barcelon/Man City-style. If the plan was clearly communicated to the fans you'd hope they'd buy in and temper their immediate expectations. If they bring in Ten Haag expecting immediate success and challenging for the top 4 i think they'll be disappointed. There's a lot of rot to remove before that can happen That’s true, but Man Utd will always have to balance that with winning trophies or at least seriously challenging every year to appease fans, shareholders and the stock market and of course their sponsors. They need that 5 + year plan, but unlike Liverpool when they get Klopp or City when they were first taken over and now ourselves, those clubs were already in dire need of such direction to get them to the top. A place where Man Utd sat. Do Man Utd have the time to now play catch up? With ourselves now the competition for top players, major sponsors and challenging for trophies is only going to extend their problems right now and increase the pressure. They really are in a hard place at the moment on and off the pitch. For a club of their size and stature, it’s staggering just how badly they have gotten it all wrong since Fergie left. You have to wonder how much of a negative presence he still is on the whole club, maybe even through no direct fault of his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GeordieDazzler Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, GeordieDazzler said: Bitter much! (He's not wrong) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 love LVG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 On 26/03/2022 at 11:53, HTT II said: That’s true, but Man Utd will always have to balance that with winning trophies or at least seriously challenging every year to appease fans, shareholders and the stock market and of course their sponsors. They need that 5 + year plan, but unlike Liverpool when they get Klopp or City when they were first taken over and now ourselves, those clubs were already in dire need of such direction to get them to the top. A place where Man Utd sat. Do Man Utd have the time to now play catch up? With ourselves now the competition for top players, major sponsors and challenging for trophies is only going to extend their problems right now and increase the pressure. They really are in a hard place at the moment on and off the pitch. For a club of their size and stature, it’s staggering just how badly they have gotten it all wrong since Fergie left. You have to wonder how much of a negative presence he still is on the whole club, maybe even through no direct fault of his own. TBF to Man U they do seem to be 100% focused on building the club up from the foundations again, it looks like the years of ticking over and short term fixes of hired guns with good records are over. By the sounds of it there is a lot of rot to cut out first though and it will take a few seasons to sort it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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