The Managerial Merry Go Round™

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Odd one given both Chelsea and City had won more even before both takeovers. Pretty much goes with my view that Leeds are overrated as a club. 

Before 1997, West Ham had won more major trophies than Chelsea - and Leeds comfortably had won more.  As Wolfcastle pointed out above, pre-Harding Chelsea were a club who had a glamours side in the early 70s and that was pretty much it for the entirety of football history. 

[KaKa]

56 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Anyone who has been to a Leeds vs Newcastle match will confirm that the crowd are unlikely to be quiet

 

Agree on everything else though  

 

Once they get an eyeful of his football and they fully realise how far they've fallen from Biesla, they'll be stunned into silence 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

Once they get an eyeful of his football and they fully realise how far they've fallen from Biesla, they'll be stunned into silence 

Ugly football and Leeds goes hand-in-glove to me  - but what a comedown from Bielsa-ball

[Wolfcastle]

7 minutes ago, midds said:

Mid 90's QPR were the best team in London. Chelsea's top striker was Paul Furlong and they played in front of 2 barns a stand and a shed. Chelsea were decent in the 70s and totally irrelevant until Matthew Harding bought Bates out. They've been a machine for the last 25 years admittedly 

Pretty sure one year Wimbledon were. Joe Kinnear's Wimbledon.

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Odd one given both Chelsea and City had won more even before both takeovers. Pretty much goes with my view that Leeds are overrated as a club. 

Leagues? They hadn't like.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said:

Pretty sure one year Wimbledon were. Joe Kinnear's Wimbledon.

Kinnear’s Wimbledon were definitely second best London team when we came back under Keegan - I think they finished 6th from memory

[The Bonk]

9 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Ugly football and Leeds goes hand-in-glove to me  - but what a comedown from Bielsa-ball

 

I'm still pissed at that 5-2 down there from the '20 season. They ran right through us.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Leagues? They hadn't like.

 

Leeds had 3 titles, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup and 2 Fairs Cups before Roman arrived. 6 of the 7 trophies came within an 8 year window.

 

Pre-Roman Chelsea had won 1 title, 3 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and 2 Cup Winners Cups.

 

Pre Abu-Dhabi City had won 2 titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and the Cup Winners Cups.

 

Three similar looking honours lists but not one where you could really say Leeds were a bigger club than both. 

[Guest]

 

[The College Dropout]

5 hours ago, Ace said:

 

He gets a worse rap than his record deserves because he's a horrible bastard and he fucked up his biggest jobs (here and england) but to say he isn't a good defensive coach is ridiculous, outside of us every team he's went to he's made them harder to beat with or without a transfer window. He's far better than Gracia hence they will be a tougher challenge.

He’ can only ever sort out a defence when he’s allowed to bring in 3-4 of his type of backs to the wall defender and hoofball expert.  

[Kid Icarus]

19 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Leeds had 3 titles, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup and 2 Fairs Cups before Roman arrived. 6 of the 7 trophies came within an 8 year window.

 

Pre-Roman Chelsea had won 1 title, 3 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and 2 Cup Winners Cups.

 

Pre Abu-Dhabi City had won 2 titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and the Cup Winners Cups.

 

Three similar looking honours lists but not one where you could really say Leeds were a bigger club than both. 

 

Context though innit. Leeds were also runners up in the league and FA Cup numerous times in the 60s and 70s, and runners up in the European Cup and Cup Winners Cup. Then in the 00s they were challenging and in the Champions League.

 

I'm not saying Leeds are bigger now. I'm just saying I accept it pre-takeover, because it's pretty solidly backed up, especially with my dad's generation.

 

 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Kid Icarus

[The Prophet]

Allegedly, £500k for four games for big Sam with a £2.5m survival bonus.

[Mike]

21 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

 

 

Nice. Can't wait to see him screaming from the cherry pucker again.

[Decky]

Trust us to be this fat cunt's first home game.  Hate the way football does this shit, they'll be playing absolutely out of their skin against us. There'll definitely be scope for us to score a few though.

[Mike]

It's wild that wor Alan isnt in a job. The bar is so low. Pards to Chelsea would genuinely be an upgrade.

[TheBrownBottle]

24 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Leeds had 3 titles, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup and 2 Fairs Cups before Roman arrived. 6 of the 7 trophies came within an 8 year window.

 

Pre-Roman Chelsea had won 1 title, 3 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and 2 Cup Winners Cups.

 

Pre Abu-Dhabi City had won 2 titles, 4 FA Cups, 2 League Cups and the Cup Winners Cups.

 

Three similar looking honours lists but not one where you could really say Leeds were a bigger club than both. 

Three of those Chelsea trophies came in a two year spell - four in a four year spell - at the end of the century.

 

For the vast, vast majority of football history Leeds and Man City were bigger clubs than Chelsea.  Chelsea were just another London club until the late 90s - Arsenal and Spurs were the big London clubs.  Plenty of us saw West Ham as London's third club

[duo]

9 hours ago, Wolfcastle said:

Made our game trickier no doubt.  May not pan out that way but the environment of new manager, first home game, must win is a worse scenario than before.

Eddie has got this 

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

I can see Leeds shipping more goals under Allardyce tbh. You couldnt get much less of an Allardyce team that one, imagine Leeds suddenly abandoning pressing from the front and trying to maintain a good defensive shape. They're going to be all over the place. 

[Ben]

Sammy Lee can't go with him, he's on Jury Duty

[WilliamPS]

Allardyce is the bottom of the barrel, only hired as pretty much every other manager has already been hired/fired this year

[The Prophet]

I don't understand how his appointment makes our game with them any tricker.

[The College Dropout]

More relevant is that Gabriel might miss our game. 
 

Holding and that tall lad CB pairing. We’ll win 3-1 or 2-0. 

[PauloGeordio]

26 minutes ago, Decky said:

Trust us to be this fat cunt's first home game.  Hate the way football does this shit, they'll be playing absolutely out of their skin against us. There'll definitely be scope for us to score a few though.

It’s the new us, not the old us. It’s the same fat Sham! 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2023 by PauloGeordio

[brummie]

The second most depressing thing in football is your team are looking relegation doomed and certain sections of the support start clamouring to press the 'Allardyce Button' as, well, Big Sam yada yada yada.

 

The most depressing thing is your club actually doing it.

 

Must be so depressing for Leeds fans.

[TomYam]

Prior to 1964, LeedsU couldn't have been regarded among the biggest 25 clubs in the country. Limited history, smallish crowds for such a large city, won nothing. Revie changed all that. Chelsea and ManC had richer histories but, like Leeds, their stories grew substantially from the mid-60s onward. Liverpool had been a bigger club than any of the aforementioned but, just like the others, their story grew from the mid-60s (monumentally in their case). 

Inviolably, and this has been the case since the mid-60s, to qualify as a 'big' club these days (by most people's reckoning) that club must be located in a big city.

Forget that Burnley has a much richer history than Leeds, as well as a far greater local supporter base relative to population size, few would regard them as the bigger of the two. That's partly due to that 1965-74 decade, but it's also down to demographics/economics.