Flip Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It's about respecting the game. Cheating is an insult to the game of football. I think it's one of the biggest problems in football today; many managers, players, journalists, even fans don't respect the game; today it's about winning at any price. Is that what we want football to be reduced to? A game that's exclusively about winning or losing? In an ideal world no, but we don't live in one and won't. That's also why there are rules in football, why there are cards, so you can be punished. A tackle to break up a counter attack is also cheating then? Do we really want football where players can't come close to each other? It's all about taking advantage of the other team and beat them, and had Gyan scored no one would be talking about Suarez handball. He did what most intelligent players would do in that situation. That's my opinion. No, tackles are allowed in football, and a big part of the game. Don't see your point there. Yeah, tackles where you get the ball. Not tackles where you don't, otherwise there wouldn't be punishments for it. So my point is that a last ditch tackle, handball, breaking up counter attacks, wasitng time are all illegal parts of the game and cheating as well then. Yeah, tackles where a player intentionally takes out the player instead of the ball (see Solskjaer example) and intentional handball is cheating, that's correct. Time-wasting is more difficult to assess and I'm not sure what the rule book says tbh. So is fouling a player in basketball as you're preventing someone from scoring. Jesus, what type of football is this that you want the world to see? We're going to have to agree to disagree. Basketball? Who's talking about basketball? Tackles should be made with the aim to get the ball, that's hardly controversial. I'm just saying generally in all sports there are fouls which under your definition should be cheating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Is anyone actually that bothered? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Petty theft and murder are both crimes, they're obviously at very different points on the scale though and they're punished accordingly. Suarez definitely should have gone to prison like. I like it The progression from making a serious point, realising you just can't do it, giving up, but ultimately deciding, "fuck it, I'll just post it anyway". This is a great place. You know me too well - I tried to think of a way of phrasing it better for 30 full seconds, then thought "fuck it", added the Suarez bit then hit send. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It's about respecting the game. Cheating is an insult to the game of football. I think it's one of the biggest problems in football today; many managers, players, journalists, even fans don't respect the game; today it's about winning at any price. Is that what we want football to be reduced to? A game that's exclusively about winning or losing? In an ideal world no, but we don't live in one and won't. That's also why there are rules in football, why there are cards, so you can be punished. A tackle to break up a counter attack is also cheating then? Do we really want football where players can't come close to each other? It's all about taking advantage of the other team and beat them, and had Gyan scored no one would be talking about Suarez handball. He did what most intelligent players would do in that situation. That's my opinion. No, tackles are allowed in football, and a big part of the game. Don't see your point there. Yeah, tackles where you get the ball. Not tackles where you don't, otherwise there wouldn't be punishments for it. So my point is that a last ditch tackle, handball, breaking up counter attacks, wasitng time are all illegal parts of the game and cheating as well then. Yeah, tackles where a player intentionally takes out the player instead of the ball (see Solskjaer example) and intentional handball is cheating, that's correct. Time-wasting is more difficult to assess and I'm not sure what the rule book says tbh. So is fouling a player in basketball as you're preventing someone from scoring. Jesus, what type of football is this that you want the world to see? We're going to have to agree to disagree. Not necessarily. Cheating requires an intention to break the rules to gain an unfair advantage. You can foul without cheating. So it's the intention that makes it cheating? So where does the line go for what is a cheating tackle and what is not? If I bring someone down when he's on goal and my intentions are to get the ball but I know the chances are slim, how is that defined? Genuine question, this is what football is about, differing opinions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 It's about respecting the game. Cheating is an insult to the game of football. I think it's one of the biggest problems in football today; many managers, players, journalists, even fans don't respect the game; today it's about winning at any price. Is that what we want football to be reduced to? A game that's exclusively about winning or losing? In an ideal world no, but we don't live in one and won't. That's also why there are rules in football, why there are cards, so you can be punished. A tackle to break up a counter attack is also cheating then? Do we really want football where players can't come close to each other? It's all about taking advantage of the other team and beat them, and had Gyan scored no one would be talking about Suarez handball. He did what most intelligent players would do in that situation. That's my opinion. I thought your earlier post was a bit insulting, but it just turns out your definition of "intelligence" is just completely out of synch with reality.. Yeah, I'm not taking s*** from someone that was p*ssed on by Dan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If it's an honest attempt to get the ball it's not cheating. It's not that hard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If it's an honest attempt to get the ball it's not cheating. It's not that hard. So MBiwa was cheating when bringing down Nasri? Can't believe we have a guy like him in our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I dunno why you've got such a fucking chip on your shoulder about this, Felipao. Nee need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I dunno why you've got such a f***ing chip on your shoulder about this, Felipao. Nee need. Just a boring friday so I thought I'd come in here to disagree with the 'polic crew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 If it's an honest attempt to get the ball it's not cheating. It's not that hard. So MBiwa was cheating when bringing down Nasri? Can't believe we have a guy like him in our team. I don't recall the incident (I deed no see eet) but if he's intentioonally taken the man instead of the ball then yes, it's cheating. This is where you go all black and white on us and pretend you can't see any difference in magnitude ('cheating is cheating derp'). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 'polic posse sounds better tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 you don't alliterate if you want to sound hard ffs PLUS, you'd immediately become 'polics pussies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 'polic crew sounds like a kangaroo disease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 maybe you should just name it after a more influential member of NO instead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Jack's Flashers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Yeah, fuck it, 'polic ain't all that anyway. Jack's Flashers works and they can double as an amateur sex offence team. Shay's Flowers for the less masculine of the tribe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What the fuck's gannin on in here man, FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 you don't alliterate if you want to sound hard ffs PLUS, you'd immediately become 'polics pussies Tell that to the S.S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What the f***'s gannin on in here man, FFS. Deep analytical discussion of the FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brasil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 What the f***'s gannin on in here man, FFS. Deep analytical discussion of the FIFA World Cup 2014 in Brasil. Divvent rattle the boss man. You'll be a dead man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Even if I was the boss, I wouldn't be SEMTEX's boss. He loves cheating, he has no place in my team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Even if I was the boss, I wouldn't be SEMTEX's boss. He loves cheating, he has no place in my team. No-one's in your team, it's Jack's now. You're in Shay's Flowers btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 #TEAMCHEAT&PROSPER Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Aye. I'm on the winning team. You're Asamoah Gyan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 #TEAMCHEAT&PROSPER 75% sure you cant have an ampersand in a hashtag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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