Guest reefatoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ban this c*nt for ageist posts please. I will not have people slagging old people off on here Don't worry about this, he'll have forgotten he posted it by the time he logs back on. My god, having a go with memoryist filth now. officially in the gutter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ban this c*nt for ageist posts please. I will not have people slagging old people off on here Don't worry about this, he'll have forgotten he posted it by the time he logs back on. Not now after the Alzheimer's breakthrough he wont. Well give it a couple of years like, so I suppose your post is still valid after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The only way its racist is if you define black as being a racist term, which is more racist than what he actually said silly and insensitive yes You think saying the word black is worse than saying he couldn't see Ferdinand because he was stood next to something black? ok then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The only way its racist is if you define black as being a racist term, which is more racist than what he actually said silly and insensitive yes You think saying the word black is worse than saying he couldn't see Ferdinand because he was stood next to something black? ok then I think what I typed was quite clear, but I'm saying that someone stating what he said as being racist simply because he acknowledged the fact that ferdinand is black, albeit in an insensitive manner, is more racist than what was actually said. Nowhere did Hall imply that ferdinand was any worse for being black, if anything he implied he was far superior than whites at hide and seek (at least in a kitchen environment), but all the liberal high horsers however are implying that ferdinand is worse off for being black and must be stood up for or felt sorry for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Its borderline for me. It is very risque and very contentious. I say to wor lass when the lights are off "where are you", because she's black. Its a bit of a joke. Likewise whenever we say watch the news and there is a piece on Africa, I'll say "do you know any of them". Light hearted banter between us. She gives as good as she gets mind. I seriously doubt SJH is a racist though. What about one of our former black players being called wor blackie by Jack Charlton I think it was Dressing room bants?! Thankfully I reckon Newcastle as a club, us as fans and us as a city, is one of the least racist of all places and that is in part down to Sir Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Its borderline for me. It is very risque and very contentious. I say to wor lass when the lights are off "where are you", because she's black. Its a bit of a joke. Likewise whenever we say watch the news and there is a piece on Africa, I'll say "do you know any of them". Light hearted banter between us. She gives as good as she gets mind. I seriously doubt SJH is a racist though. What about one of our former black players being called wor blackie by Jack Charlton I think it was Dressing room bants?! Thankfully I reckon Newcastle as a club, us as fans and us as a city, is one of the least racist of all places and that is in part down to Sir Les Do you actually do this or were you taking the piss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I can only imagine how many race based jibes I'd be throwing around if I had a black missus. It'd be relentless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Its borderline for me. It is very risque and very contentious. I say to wor lass when the lights are off "where are you", because she's black. Its a bit of a joke. Likewise whenever we say watch the news and there is a piece on Africa, I'll say "do you know any of them". Light hearted banter between us. She gives as good as she gets mind. I seriously doubt SJH is a racist though. What about one of our former black players being called wor blackie by Jack Charlton I think it was Dressing room bants?! Thankfully I reckon Newcastle as a club, us as fans and us as a city, is one of the least racist of all places and that is in part down to Sir Les Do you actually do this or were you taking the p*ss? I actually do this She gets my sense of humour thankfully. She can be just as bad btw. She always refers to us whites as "Yous", for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I can only imagine how many race based jibes I'd be throwing around if I had a black missus. It'd be relentless. Its fucking great, I can get away with so much shit. I had to once explain to her about darkie etc. anyway a year or so later and we are on holiday in Tunisia and we see a black person "look, a darkie" wor lass says. We then, crudely, conjure up a spot the darkie game, she won, she spotted more black people during our stay than I did. She has a great sense of humour and if someone for example called her a black bastard she'd be like well the black bit is certainly right but less of the bastard. Mind she's suffered a bit of racism in Newcastle sadly. Names like darkie, nigger etc. would never ever do anything to hurt her, its things like some kids spitting on her on he bus because she is black or some bloke shouting get back home etc. because he thinks she's a foreign sponger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 HTT going for broke there. my sons best mate is Chinese. dad owns a famous restaurant in Stowel st. hes a right little racist,which I wont go into detail. also calls himself DJ Chinky, when we get a chinese he calls it a chinkees. he also met Gimp and thought it was hilarious, and even Said-' You all look the same to me' of course I dont take any offence to any of this its just banter. Seems to me the most sensitive people to racism arn't the funny little ethnics but the lefty white Kids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 well I wish he'd met him earlier. that charming anecdote has cleared up racism once and for all. good job everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 As a white man living in the whitest county in the whitest country on white earth, let me reveal why I feel uniquely qualified to define racism for everyone else **farts out a bad argument** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest n4e Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 'spot the darkie' sounds like a barrel of laughs. Mrs HTT is a lucky lady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 She sure is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 HTT going for broke there. my sons best mate is Chinese. dad owns a famous restaurant in Stowel st. hes a right little racist,which I wont go into detail. also calls himself DJ Chinky, when we get a chinese he calls it a chinkees. he also met Gimp and thought it was hilarious, and even Said-' You all look the same to me' of course I dont take any offence to any of this its just banter. Seems to me the most sensitive people to racism arn't the funny little ethnics but the lefty white Kids. I think you're right. Most people enjoy getting offended on other peoples behalf. For me anyone I've really knocked about with, ''foreigners'' wise it's never really been on the menu we just got on with being friends & didn't really think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The only way its racist is if you define black as being a racist term, which is more racist than what he actually said silly and insensitive yes You think saying the word black is worse than saying he couldn't see Ferdinand because he was stood next to something black? ok then I think what I typed was quite clear, but I'm saying that someone stating what he said as being racist simply because he acknowledged the fact that ferdinand is black, albeit in an insensitive manner, is more racist than what was actually said. Nowhere did Hall imply that ferdinand was any worse for being black, if anything he implied he was far superior than whites at hide and seek (at least in a kitchen environment), but all the liberal high horsers however are implying that ferdinand is worse off for being black and must be stood up for or felt sorry for. Did I just get called racist for thinking something someone else said was a bit racist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The only way its racist is if you define black as being a racist term, which is more racist than what he actually said silly and insensitive yes You think saying the word black is worse than saying he couldn't see Ferdinand because he was stood next to something black? ok then I think what I typed was quite clear, but I'm saying that someone stating what he said as being racist simply because he acknowledged the fact that ferdinand is black, albeit in an insensitive manner, is more racist than what was actually said. Nowhere did Hall imply that ferdinand was any worse for being black, if anything he implied he was far superior than whites at hide and seek (at least in a kitchen environment), but all the liberal high horsers however are implying that ferdinand is worse off for being black and must be stood up for or felt sorry for. Did I just get called racist for thinking something someone else said was a bit racist? do they teach comprehension wherever you grew up? If you think black in itself is a racist term, then yes I think you are being racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 did I say I think the word black in itself is racist? No. What I said was I find someone that insinuates he can't see a person with Les Ferdinand's skin colour because he is stood next to something black as wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 did I say I think the word black in itself is racist? No. What I said was I find someone that insinuates he can't see a person with Les Ferdinand's skin colour because he is stood next to something black as wrong. No you said it was racist. I don't think anyone's arguing that it isn't a silly/wrong/insensitive comment but the word racist gets thrown about far too much, usually, as someone mentioned, by dogooders who aren't at the receiving end of said "racism" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 8 pages FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think it is ridiculous to label people "dogooders" because they aren't the race that is being offended. Out of interest who are the dogooders in this thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 What a dismal thread. The comment wasn't particularly racist in any evil kind of way, but it was the kind of thing only a racist would say. It's ignorant. And it does contain a racist idea, placing Les Ferdinand "black" as a category, not black as in his actual skin colour, which isn't black at all, though that's the "point" of the joke. The point is to call him a darkie, basically. I remember SJH also came out with some homophobic drivel many years ago. He's a bit like a sort of football chairman Prince Philip – an old fucker, a bit out of touch with reality, and with a lot of antediluvian attitudes in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toondave Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think it is ridiculous to label people "dogooders" because they aren't the race that is being offended. Out of interest who are the dogooders in this thread? The ones who scream racism at the very mention of colour, such as alex and santoon above, probably others elsewhere but I didn't take notes. Someone earlier made an excellent analogy with height and a window I don't remember it but it was spot on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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