Deuce Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The worst part of it is that I think we've kept them up today. They depend 100% on what happens when they play us, and this will be enough to give them the bump to survive, along with the three points they'll get gift-wrapped from "Pards" in February. Who goes down instead though? Not exactly a race to the bottom at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They're going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They're going down. Agree with you but it doesn't look like we'll be that far ahead without a new coaching set-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pons Alias Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've already posted this elsewhere, but it still seems right to me, so whilst I'm hesitant to post this here for the backlash I might get: I Didn't watch the game. I didn't listen to it. I got in at about five and found out we lost to the Mackems... ...and I don't really feel like I give a shit. That's not usual - but it feels like emotionally I've divorced myself from NUFC. I've got no pride or hope in or excitement for the club any more. Maybe I'm just finished with football. (I've always been a Newcastle fan rather than a football fan.) I'm perfectly ready for the accusation of fair-weather or whatever, but that's how it feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Mackems have got 3 wins in their last 24 league games. No problem with a double in there over Pardew's Black and White Army though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Mackems have got 3 wins in their last 24 league games. No problem with a double in there over Pardew's Black and White Army though. Sickening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Absolute wank, as usual. I blame Pardew. His derby record says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've already posted this elsewhere, but it still seems right to me, so whilst I'm hesitant to post this here for the backlash I might get: I Didn't watch the game. I didn't listen to it. I got in at about five and found out we lost to the Mackems... ...and I don't really feel like I give a s***. That's not usual - but it feels like emotionally I've divorced myself from NUFC. I've got no pride or hope in or excitement for the club any more. Maybe I'm just finished with football. (I've always been a Newcastle fan rather than a football fan.) I'm perfectly ready for the accusation of fair-weather or whatever, but that's how it feels. You'll find a few feel the same way, it's not fair weather. Essentially Ashley has beaten the life out of watching NUFC and taken any pride/enjoyment out of watching us Aye, beaten the life out of it. While his methods of cost cutting work well with shops. Theres not two types of shopping. no better shopping to get up the league. People either like shopping or not. ( i hate it but thats another story). And if they like it they will maybe like it more if the product is cheaper. This simply doesnt work with football, theres a desire to be entertained by the viewing public. How long can this be ignored? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Embarrassingly shite from front to back. First half was abysmal. Once again in this fixture the team of "internationals" are beaten by the one who wanted it more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The worst part of it is that I think we've kept them up today. They depend 100% on what happens when they play us, and this will be enough to give them the bump to survive, along with the three points they'll get gift-wrapped from "Pards" in February. I think this too. We could have firmly put a nail in their premiership coffin with a win, even a draw would have left them on 2pts after a 1/4 of season gone. Have a feeling we have given them a springboard and a bit of belief to put a few results together now. Almost as frustrating as our similar effort last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I remember Wullie said it after the disgrace at home last; the hex has been broken (by Pardew/mackems). We're now very beatable in derbies under this regime and are rapidly becoming second rate in these games. Today, 0-3, and even the 1-1 (Shola last minute at home) have all been in the post with Pardew in charge. Absolute disgrace. No other manager under any other hierachy would even have made it to this game, let alone be allowed to stay after it- and that's the fucking disgraceful thing; he will be allowed to stay. Through incompetence at board level and, dare I say it, incompetence in the stands. Our support has been ground down, become apathetic. We won't revolt. Derby or not- they are the worst team in the league by a mile. Worse than Palace. Worse than anyone else. We should be turning these sloggers over no problem. But we suffer under a coach who's state of paranoia and incompetence is on a different level to anything else I have seen. I don't want to talk to anyone, I don't want to watch other football to take my mind off it. I am fucking disgusted at what this club has become. Today, like the last game, will take a long time to get over. It is repulsive that we have been reduced to getting beaten twice in a row off sunderland. I actually cannot accept it. I hate football and I thoroughly, thoroughly hate what our club has become. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I wonder what the attendance will be on Wednesday? Apathy has set in, folk are angry and we all expect to get beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I've already posted this elsewhere, but it still seems right to me, so whilst I'm hesitant to post this here for the backlash I might get: I Didn't watch the game. I didn't listen to it. I got in at about five and found out we lost to the Mackems... ...and I don't really feel like I give a s***. That's not usual - but it feels like emotionally I've divorced myself from NUFC. I've got no pride or hope in or excitement for the club any more. Maybe I'm just finished with football. (I've always been a Newcastle fan rather than a football fan.) I'm perfectly ready for the accusation of fair-weather or whatever, but that's how it feels. You'll find a few feel the same way, it's not fair weather. Essentially Ashley has beaten the life out of watching NUFC and taken any pride/enjoyment out of watching us Aye, beaten the life out of it. While his methods of cost cutting work well with shops. Theres not two types of shopping. no better shopping to get up the league. People either like shopping or not. ( i hate it but thats another story). And if they like it they will maybe like it more if the product is cheaper. This simply doesnt work with football, theres a desire to be entertained by the viewing public. How long can this be ignored? It'll be ignored until enough people stop going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They were crap, we were shit. God help us next two games. Wouldn't surprise me if we won one of them. Just fuck ufck fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They were crap, we were s***. God help us next two games. Wouldn't surprise me if we won one of them. Just f*** ufck f***. We are miles behind City and Chelsea and are on a massive downer. Can only see two comprehensive defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 And as for the tactical setup today.....it stank of incompetence. The way Pardew sets us up, his lack of knowledge and a philosophy completely contradicts a false 9 4-3-3. For this to work we must have powerful forward runners in behind (Gouffran, Sissoko, Remy) to stretch their back 4 and increase chances of penetration. But we didn't have that, it was completely static. We struggle to penetrate teams enough as it is, so when we have our striker and arguably most talented player dropping as deep as the centre circle with the ball and no forward support, it makes no sense. If Hatem drops off in between the lines, our wingers should be pinning their full backs deep, potentially pealing off in behind or, if one of their CB's decides to vacate his position, a bursting forward run from Cabaye or Sissoko can penetrate that space created. But as usual, the play was all in front of them, leaving their slow, laboured back line with a very easy job. Then he completely contradicts himself after spouting all that bollocks about 'being attacking' and 'controlling the game' beforehand. Rubbish. With a 3v2 in central midfield we should have bossed them. We should have played high up the pitch with a staggered midfield 3- Tiote sitting in front of the (vulnerable) CB's, Cabaye in front as our play maker and Sissoko ahead looking to support and get beyond our CF/F9. But nothing. We should have eaten Cattermole alive today. But that's it, every single fucking week 'we should', 'we should have', 'why don't we'. Fucking bollocks. Why the fuck would you change to a 4-4-2 consisting of Shola and Remy? Why Shola? Go direct against two giant CB's and waste the talents of Ben Arfa and Cabaye. Only this mong would do that. Sissoko was poor today, so why not switch to 4-2-3-1, bring Anita on alongside Tiote to help increase possession and further control the game, sit in front of the defence, let Santon and Debuchy bomb forward, push Cabaye up further forward to dictate and create, and have inside forwards creating space for overlaps and cutting inside with Remy or Ben Arfa up front looking to run in behind off a pass from Cabaye. So, so, so, so fucking desperate and unimaginative its un-fucking-believable man. We have a woeful 'plan' 'A', and no plan 'B' to switch to. It's embarrassing. Just fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I wonder what the attendance will be on Wednesday? Apathy has set in, folk are angry and we all expect to get beat. Wait....what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I wonder what the attendance will be on Wednesday? Apathy has set in, folk are angry and we all expect to get beat. Wait....what? Good catch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I wonder what the attendance will be on Wednesday? Apathy has set in, folk are angry and we all expect to get beat. Wait....what? Some are angry, some can't be arsed anymore. I am in the first camp but the latter is only a matter of time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I have went though periods of wanting to chuck following football all together but have never followed it through. Some people (and fair play to them) would turn up week in week out to watch the grass grow, i really could not do that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I just don't understand why we wouldn't compete with Sunderland today. They showed against Liverpool that they are capable of doing it. I knew after the first 15 minutes that we would lose. I strongly believe all the team had to do to today was to match the commitment Sunderland would show, and sadly they failed, whilted under the pressure or didn't think they had to. Either way it's not good. For all the shit Pardew is responsible for, I think the players should take most of the blame today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 What I'd give to have a leader, a captain in our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 What I'd give to have a leader, a captain in our side. As if it would make a blind bit of difference when the one in charge of it all is a clueless, gutless coward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 What I'd give to have a leader, a captain in our side. As if it would make a blind bit of difference when the one in charge of it all is a clueless, gutless coward. Doesn't seem like there's anyone willing to seriously confront Pardew though. Players have no one to look to for guidance or leadership outside the manager, which is a problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pardew is a chancer, and putting it kindly extremely limited tactically. His "coaching" is a dying breed in football these days for good reason. Watch him fade into obscurity when he loses this job He'd already faded into obscurity before he got it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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