NUFC media bans - Telegraph now banned from club

[Big Geordie]

Semtex

[TheGuv]

Total Sport from tonight - I'm on from about 53mins in;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01jmwg9/Total_Sport_01_11_2013/

 

Good listen as always BG

 

 

[Guest Haris Vuckic]

 

The hardest part is finding somebody who will buy us...

 

That's out of our hands.

 

Basically yeah, I'm not sure why people keep saying, that. That's nothing to do with is, answer wouldn't know even if there was a buyer. Are we some leper of a club? Are we f***, we are an attractive proposition

 

I don't think we've had a single serious bid yet mind.

[Mattoon]

This whole scenario is unbelievable, it just shows how out of touch Ashley really is. The Chron has been his little bitch for how long? His mouthpiece to the masses, his last line of defence and the one thing keeping some supporters onside.

 

He's really shot himself in the foot with this one, it's snowballed and his latest charade involving NUST has just got more backs up. Really feels like the apathetic tide has turned.

 

If there is a stand tomorrow it will just be the start, he'll react, because he's a petulant child and that will get more backs up. This won't end well, hopefully for him and not us.

[quayside]

 

The hardest part is finding somebody who will buy us...

 

That's out of our hands.

 

Basically yeah, I'm not sure why people keep saying, that. That's nothing to do with is, answer wouldn't know even if there was a buyer. Are we some leper of a club? Are we f***, we are an attractive proposition

 

We are only attractive as a vanity project not as a business. Very few owners ever make money out of football clubs and those that try to usually fail - and end up being loathed into the bargain, not that they tend to care too much about that mind. 

[bowlingcrofty]

Total Sport from tonight - I'm on from about 53mins in;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01jmwg9/Total_Sport_01_11_2013/

 

Excellent stuff.

 

[Mattoon]

Total Sport from tonight - I'm on from about 53mins in;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01jmwg9/Total_Sport_01_11_2013/

 

Excellent stuff.

 

 

[Dave]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

[Fenham Mag]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

 

He comes from a chairman not too dissimilar from Ashley.

[quayside]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

 

He comes from a chairman not too dissimilar from Ashley.

 

Not sure about that. Kenwright hasn't got much money and tries to do his best for Everton. Compare and contrast......

[Guest NobbyOhNobby]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

 

He comes from a chairman not too dissimilar from Ashley.

 

Not sure about that. Kenwright hasn't got much money and tries to do his best for Everton. Compare and contrast......

Think he means whelan

[SEMTEX]

Funny that we fall for the same shit re:poor man kenwright tho

[Fenham Mag]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

 

He comes from a chairman not too dissimilar from Ashley.

 

Not sure about that. Kenwright hasn't got much money and tries to do his best for Everton. Compare and contrast......

Think he means whelan

 

I did.

[quayside]

@MsiDouglas

A mention of @EveningChron front page on @mrdanwalker show on 5Live just. Good segment,but depressing to hear intelligent Martinez say a win tomorrow would solve all the issues. It's deeper than that (though a win is what everyone wants).

 

 

He comes from a chairman not too dissimilar from Ashley.

 

Not sure about that. Kenwright hasn't got much money and tries to do his best for Everton. Compare and contrast......

Think he means whelan

 

Ah ok, thanks mate. Don't understand the relevance of Whelan to what Martinez says these days but what the hell.

[Guest neesy111]

Results would paper over cracks.....

[Big Geordie]

Not this time I think - it's gone beyond that now.

[Guest micky_123]

Not this time I think - it's gone beyond that now.

 

Agreed, it seems the minority of people I speak to now are still apathetic, big majority want to do something about it. A win against Chelsea won't do anything to stop the way people are feeling now, he has gone too far.

[Mick]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-ryder-football-again-newcastle-6261888

 

 

Lee Ryder: When will it be about football again at Newcastle United?

  1 Nov 2013 09:00   

 

When will it be about football again at Newcastle United, asks the Chronicle's chief sports writer Lee Ryder

 

I would like to be writing this column about football – I really would.

 

Remember that?

 

For example, writing about great goals, great saves, great football and with a bit of entertainment chucked in if possible.

 

Not for the first time in the Mike Ashley era, though, I find myself asking: “When will it be about football again?”

 

Watching the game from the terraces against Manchester City, it is worth noting within the concourses of St James’ Park there are still huge pictures of Entertainers like Alan Shearer, Tino Asprilla, David Ginola and Peter Beardsley hanging proudly around the stadium.

 

We are guilty of living in the past, but we are also in danger of never scaling the heights of those days again.

 

Why?

 

Because there seems to be a constant squabble over what the expectations should be at St James’ Park these days.

 

The current ban on the local press is not really about coverage, it is about the fact Newcastle do not like people calling for change because they feel running the club which makes a profit and simply dines at English football’s top table is good enough.

 

It works in business terms, it does not work in football terms.

 

It certainly does not work in a football-mad city which can rival Barcelona, Madrid, Munich, Dortmund, Liverpool, Manchester, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Milan or Rome when it comes to passion from the fans.

 

Yet we are writing about the politics once more and why so many of Newcastle United’s “customers” appear unhappy (if 20,000 empty seats against Man City during half-term with cheap tickets is anything to go by that is).

 

Indeed: “When will it be about football again?” is a question which just will not go away.

 

That was the case when, just a few months into Mike Ashley’s ownership, Newcastle parted company with Sam Allardyce.

 

Now whether football and Big Sam (given his ugly tactics) can be spoken about in the same sentence is up for debate.

 

However, if we were looking for a first set of trials and tribulations under Ashley, here is where you will find it.

 

Ashley actually had public support when he sacked Big Sam.

 

In 2007 he sat side by side with supporters, bought fans a pint and even listened to their points of view from the terraces in away sections up and down the land.

 

In my opinion, that eventually resulted in Allardyce losing his job.

 

Yet Ashley – flanked by his then chairman in the approachable and friendly Chris Mort – was still onside with the Toon Army.

 

I have often heard people at the club close to Ashley say: “Mike wishes he could go for a drink in Newcastle again.”

 

Well the truth is, if Ashley communicated with the supporters this would be less of an issue.

 

Newcastle is a friendly city compared to other places, Geordies are generally warm and chatty and love to talk about football.

 

Yes, we do get passionate and sometimes outspoken about football but overall the heart is in the right place.

 

Something Ashley, surely deep down, should know.

 

He may not have spoken to fans in the build-up to replacing Allardyce with Kevin Keegan but in listening to supporter opinion he delivered a manager fans could relate to – the Messiah.

 

It did not work out and plenty of Ashley’s good work in appointing Keegan was quickly undone.

 

One of the recurring themes at United during the Ashley years has been to take one step forward, then three back.

 

You could probably make that four in the appointment of director of football Dennis Wise.

 

It was a decision which would have been as popular as painting the Tyne Bridge red and white.

 

Really, apart from a couple of peaks here and there, it has been a rocky ride for Geordie fans ever since.

 

After Wise v Keegan kicked in, again I found myself asking: “When will it be about football again?”

 

When Keegan resigned after a bitter transfer row it was more of the same, politics first, football second.

 

Newcastle claiming we were right, you are wrong – it is our club, so there. The PR OGs continued when Joe Kinnear arrived at the club in 2008 and his explosive, swearing rant of a press conference found its way into the national pages of the media again.

 

Hardly reporting on football was it?

 

No, reporting on a middle-aged bloke who got a kick out of swearing his head off.

 

Could what happened in between Kinnear and relegation be classed as reporting on football?

 

Well, if four wins out of 18 games floats your boat and a 22% win record, maybe.

 

Kinnear, like Wise, was never the right fit for the Magpies – yet that has not stopped him being back at the club as the man in charge of ALL football operations.

 

Yet this timeline must move on as we move on to the painful relegation in 2009.

 

Alan Shearer was the man at the helm but by that time the damage had been done.

 

The black summer of 2009 – when the Magpies did not communicate until the club was put up for sale on the internet like a secondhand DVD player – also left many scratching their heads.

 

Here we were reporting on a fire sale of first-team players, the possibility of administration if Ashley pulled out his money and the sight of empty seats in the Championship.

 

Again I asked: “When will it be about football again?”

 

The Championship and winning every week offered those upstairs light relief but it did not take long for things to deflect back to off the field again.

 

Since then we have had good men like Shearer discarded, Chris Hughton sacked, Andy Carroll sold, Kevin Nolan sold, Joey Barton given away for free and plenty of failed transfer quests.

 

There was the renaming of St James’ Park, Wonga, the return to the helm of Kinnear and the most recent farce – banning the local written press because they simply reported on a protest march about Mike Ashley through our city.

 

For all the mess, for all the politics and for all the problems, only one thing is for certain.

 

That is Newcastle United Football Club, St James’ Park and the supporters will be here longer than any manager, player or director.

 

When will it be about football again though?

 

Now that is a good question!

 

[George Bailey]

Total Sport from tonight - I'm on from about 53mins in;

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01jmwg9/Total_Sport_01_11_2013/

 

Excellent stuff.

 

 

 

Well said sir. Well said.

[jdckelly]

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-ryder-football-again-newcastle-6261888

 

 

Lee Ryder: When will it be about football again at Newcastle United?

  1 Nov 2013 09:00   

 

When will it be about football again at Newcastle United, asks the Chronicle's chief sports writer Lee Ryder

 

I would like to be writing this column about football – I really would.

 

Remember that?

 

For example, writing about great goals, great saves, great football and with a bit of entertainment chucked in if possible.

 

Not for the first time in the Mike Ashley era, though, I find myself asking: “When will it be about football again?”

 

Watching the game from the terraces against Manchester City, it is worth noting within the concourses of St James’ Park there are still huge pictures of Entertainers like Alan Shearer, Tino Asprilla, David Ginola and Peter Beardsley hanging proudly around the stadium.

 

We are guilty of living in the past, but we are also in danger of never scaling the heights of those days again.

 

Why?

 

Because there seems to be a constant squabble over what the expectations should be at St James’ Park these days.

 

The current ban on the local press is not really about coverage, it is about the fact Newcastle do not like people calling for change because they feel running the club which makes a profit and simply dines at English football’s top table is good enough.

 

It works in business terms, it does not work in football terms.

 

It certainly does not work in a football-mad city which can rival Barcelona, Madrid, Munich, Dortmund, Liverpool, Manchester, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Milan or Rome when it comes to passion from the fans.

 

Yet we are writing about the politics once more and why so many of Newcastle United’s “customers” appear unhappy (if 20,000 empty seats against Man City during half-term with cheap tickets is anything to go by that is).

 

Indeed: “When will it be about football again?” is a question which just will not go away.

 

That was the case when, just a few months into Mike Ashley’s ownership, Newcastle parted company with Sam Allardyce.

 

Now whether football and Big Sam (given his ugly tactics) can be spoken about in the same sentence is up for debate.

 

However, if we were looking for a first set of trials and tribulations under Ashley, here is where you will find it.

 

Ashley actually had public support when he sacked Big Sam.

 

In 2007 he sat side by side with supporters, bought fans a pint and even listened to their points of view from the terraces in away sections up and down the land.

 

In my opinion, that eventually resulted in Allardyce losing his job.

 

Yet Ashley – flanked by his then chairman in the approachable and friendly Chris Mort – was still onside with the Toon Army.

 

I have often heard people at the club close to Ashley say: “Mike wishes he could go for a drink in Newcastle again.”

 

Well the truth is, if Ashley communicated with the supporters this would be less of an issue.

 

Newcastle is a friendly city compared to other places, Geordies are generally warm and chatty and love to talk about football.

 

Yes, we do get passionate and sometimes outspoken about football but overall the heart is in the right place.

 

Something Ashley, surely deep down, should know.

 

He may not have spoken to fans in the build-up to replacing Allardyce with Kevin Keegan but in listening to supporter opinion he delivered a manager fans could relate to – the Messiah.

 

It did not work out and plenty of Ashley’s good work in appointing Keegan was quickly undone.

 

One of the recurring themes at United during the Ashley years has been to take one step forward, then three back.

 

You could probably make that four in the appointment of director of football Dennis Wise.

 

It was a decision which would have been as popular as painting the Tyne Bridge red and white.

 

Really, apart from a couple of peaks here and there, it has been a rocky ride for Geordie fans ever since.

 

After Wise v Keegan kicked in, again I found myself asking: “When will it be about football again?”

 

When Keegan resigned after a bitter transfer row it was more of the same, politics first, football second.

 

Newcastle claiming we were right, you are wrong – it is our club, so there. The PR OGs continued when Joe Kinnear arrived at the club in 2008 and his explosive, swearing rant of a press conference found its way into the national pages of the media again.

 

Hardly reporting on football was it?

 

No, reporting on a middle-aged bloke who got a kick out of swearing his head off.

 

Could what happened in between Kinnear and relegation be classed as reporting on football?

 

Well, if four wins out of 18 games floats your boat and a 22% win record, maybe.

 

Kinnear, like Wise, was never the right fit for the Magpies – yet that has not stopped him being back at the club as the man in charge of ALL football operations.

 

Yet this timeline must move on as we move on to the painful relegation in 2009.

 

Alan Shearer was the man at the helm but by that time the damage had been done.

 

The black summer of 2009 – when the Magpies did not communicate until the club was put up for sale on the internet like a secondhand DVD player – also left many scratching their heads.

 

Here we were reporting on a fire sale of first-team players, the possibility of administration if Ashley pulled out his money and the sight of empty seats in the Championship.

 

Again I asked: “When will it be about football again?”

 

The Championship and winning every week offered those upstairs light relief but it did not take long for things to deflect back to off the field again.

 

Since then we have had good men like Shearer discarded, Chris Hughton sacked, Andy Carroll sold, Kevin Nolan sold, Joey Barton given away for free and plenty of failed transfer quests.

 

There was the renaming of St James’ Park, Wonga, the return to the helm of Kinnear and the most recent farce – banning the local written press because they simply reported on a protest march about Mike Ashley through our city.

 

For all the mess, for all the politics and for all the problems, only one thing is for certain.

 

That is Newcastle United Football Club, St James’ Park and the supporters will be here longer than any manager, player or director.

 

When will it be about football again though?

 

Now that is a good question!

how the hell can Ryder put getting of Barton or Nolan into the same category as what else Ashleys done?

[Mick]

 

how the hell can Ryder put getting of Barton or Nolan into the same category as what else Ashleys done?

 

I'm sure it will be classed as having an opinion.

[TheGuv]

Still a good article for Ryder tbf

[captainhaircut]

These twats are intolerable at the moment. Like they are on some sort of crusade against Ashley. Only it's taken them being banned before they did anything.

[Mick]

These t***s are intolerable at the moment. Like they are on some sort of crusade against Ashley. Only it's taken them being banned before they did anything.

 

I don't care why they're doing it, only that they are and it's about time.

[captainhaircut]

These t***s are intolerable at the moment. Like they are on some sort of crusade against Ashley. Only it's taken them being banned before they did anything.

 

I don't care why they're doing it, only that they are and it's about time.

 

I care why they're doing it. Because this proves that they don't actually give a shit about the club. They just want the attention and sales that go with this. And when the momentum dies a bit or it gets a bit tougher, they'll stop.

 

In it solely for the money.