Wullie Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" But why bring it in to the public arena? Does it need to be known by public audience? I can only assume the interviewer asked him specifically if anyone had died today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" But why bring it in to the public arena? Does it need to be known by public audience? That's a very different objection to what's being accused of: using it as an excuse to hide behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can only assume the interviewer asked him specifically if anyone had died today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26164013 1:33 Q: How difficult is this spell at the moment? AP: Well it's difficult, it's testing. We've had some really bad news today on a personal level and then the game as well, it's been a tough day but, you know in terms of where I am with the players I've made it clear to them their responsibilities to the fans and this city and that needs to be reflected in the next game. That's the only thing we can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Obviously horrendous news (and RIP Mr. Carver) but the cynic in me immediately says is there any need to bring that up? Maybe I'm just being harsh but... I'm with you. Horrible news. But shouldn't be brought up to us (general public). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 You're getting no comment from me until I've heard a tape recording. Might have been being sarcy for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26164013 1:33 Q: How difficult is this spell at the moment? AP: Well it's difficult, it's testing. We've had some really bad news today on a personal level and then the game as well, it's been a tough day but you know, in terms of where I am with the players I've made it clear to them their responsibilities to the fans and to this city and that needs to be reflected in the next game. That's the only thing we can do. So just generally lamenting this period in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 What a fucking arsehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That's a very different objection to what's being accused of: using it as an excuse to hide behind. OK, I've narrowed it down to two, left or right? http://i57.tinypic.com/21kjhpf.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26164013 1:33 Q: How difficult is this spell at the moment? AP: Well it's difficult, it's testing. We've had some really bad news today on a personal level and then the game as well, it's been a tough day but you know, in terms of where I am with the players I've made it clear to them their responsibilities to the fans and to this city and that needs to be reflected in the next game. That's the only thing we can do. So just generally lamenting this period in time. Yeah, that's why I posted: Oddly mentions in his BBC interview that 'we've had some really bad news today on a personal level', and that with the game as well it's been a really tough day. No twisting from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Didn't hear it myself but didn't he basically say "We've had bad news too, so today's been pretty shit." Not "We've had some bad news and it might have contributed to the shit performance?" http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26164013 1:33 Q: How difficult is this spell at the moment? AP: Well it's difficult, it's testing. We've had some really bad news today on a personal level and then the game as well, it's been a tough day but you know, in terms of where I am with the players I've made it clear to them their responsibilities to the fans and to this city and that needs to be reflected in the next game. That's the only thing we can do. So just generally lamenting this period in time. Yeah, that's why I posted: Oddly mentions in his BBC interview that 'we've had some really bad news today on a personal level', and that with the game as well it's been a really tough day. No twisting from me. And I mentioned it's an odd thing to bring in to the public domain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 There's no reason to mention it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I've made it clear to them their responsibilities to the fans and to this city and that needs to be reflected in the next game. That's the only thing we can do. Could try coaching them properly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So he needs to explicitly say "Reason X led to result or bad period of form Y"? I'd say if someone rattles off a list of negative happenings when questioned about something then you can justifiably say they're being put forward as reasons (or "excuses") for what they're being questioned about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Absolutely no reason to mention it at all, unless you wanting to use it as another side excuse imo as it would had made one iota difference to tonight. This ranks for me alongside Souness's family more important press conference back in the day. Explains why I was seeing Steve Stone's bald head all the time tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 "Of course I'm not happy. This is a game where you as a manager, expect life and limb on the football pitch. "As a player, that's what I gave; that's what I expect my players to give in every moment in every game. "I don't care what the scoreline is, I don't care what the scenario is, that's what I expect and that's what these fans expect. "If you drop down from that, then you are going to suffer a game like that." Luckily tonight was a one-off. Oh, wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 But now we've got time to do some work on the training ground, Dave. The amount of times I've heard him say that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 This no more goals from kick off is a silly tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Time to bring back 'and pardle'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 An extra days training to perfect the change of left backs at half time routine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm less concerned about them "giving life and limb" and more concerned about them looking disgustingly shit at football. One for the football pet hates thread for me - people moaning about "passion" and the like. I've never watched Man City (2008-) or Arsenal or Barcelona or one of the excellent Newcastle teams and come away thinking that they've won their latest game at a canter because of passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm less concerned about them "giving life and limb" and more concerned about them looking disgustingly shit at football. One for the football pet hates thread for me - people moaning about "passion" and the like. I've never watched Man City (2008-) or Arsenal or Barcelona or one of the excellent Newcastle teams and come away thinking that they've won their latest game at a canter because of passion. It's just a tired excuse tbh, fans use it even more than managers do. False platitudes to avoid the fact that we're atrociously coached and organised resulting in the shit on a stick football we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 So he needs to explicitly say "Reason X led to result or bad period of form Y"? I'd say if someone rattles off a list of negative happenings when questioned about something then you can justifiably say they're being put forward as reasons (or "excuses") for what they're being questioned about. pardew is paid to be the manager of a football club with 1,000's of weekly paying customers and a reasonably high national (ex-european) profile, why shouldn't his public utterances be looked at and analysed? they would in many other walks of life, never mind other sports mourinho can talk shit 'cause of what he's achieved and the fact his team are challenging for the title, pards not so much i'd expect it from savvy fans of any club tbh, if tony pulis was talking about playing like barcelona every week as his team launched the ball up to peter crouch while rushing headlong to relegation i'd have expected stoke fans to be somewhat interested in the lack of alignment between what he says and does the man is a fucking gobshite, and a shit manager to go with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 OK. So it's not Pardew's dad, it's Pardew's assistant's dad who has died. Sure, it's sad. Of course it is. But ask yourself: Your bosses secretary's father dies. Is your day fucked up because of it? Are you so distraught by this news that you cannot perform to the best of your abilities? Fuck off! Utter bollocks. Unless you're infiinitely closer to your bosses lackeys than I am to mine then you're unlikely to give even two shits about this. Utter smokescreen and complete pile of horseshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I can only assume the interviewer asked him specifically if anyone had died today. This might be the hardest I've ever laughed at a post on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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