TRon Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Question to ask is, what is in it for Pardew to hang around? Many journalists consider him a good manager, has done a "good job" at NUFC, other fans I talk to seem to think he is doing a good job...The job at nufc is a ballache, players get sold, under investment, told he cant go for cups, cant chase a european spot. So whats in it for Pardew, why not walk away and find a job where he doesn't have such tight restrictions placed upon him and the team. Why not find a team that wants to improve. What does Alan pardew get for hanging around in a dead end job?? If he went to another club he's not going to get players of the quality of Cabaye and Remy to hide his inadequacy. It's not like he's going to be headhunted by Chelsea or Liverpool. The type of club which would hire him would be Palace or West Ham, and he'd have them relegated within a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippity Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Question to ask is, what is in it for Pardew to hang around? Many journalists consider him a good manager, has done a "good job" at NUFC, other fans I talk to seem to think he is doing a good job...The job at nufc is a ballache, players get sold, under investment, told he cant go for cups, cant chase a european spot. So whats in it for Pardew, why not walk away and find a job where he doesn't have such tight restrictions placed upon him and the team. Why not find a team that wants to improve. What does Alan pardew get for hanging around in a dead end job?? If he went to another club he's not going to get players of the quality of Cabaye and Remy to hide his inadequacy. It's not like he's going to be headhunted by Chelsea or Liverpool. The type of club which would hire him would be Palace or West Ham, and he'd have them relegated within a season. They can have his head, tbf. The rest of the rancid f***er can go into one of Munchies' kebabs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Happy Face now denying being one of Pardew's staunchest defenders. Fuck me. I've defended him against daft, unfair criticisms. Like I said though, you won't find any posts where I praise the fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Happy Face now denying being one of Pardew's staunchest defenders. f*** me. What a shocking sequence of events that have led to our current predicament. Who'd have thought it would turn out like this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Happy Face now denying being one of Pardew's staunchest defenders. Fuck me. I've defended him against daft, unfair criticisms. Like I said though, you won't find any posts where I praise the fucker. You've skewed just about every stat possible to try and paint him as, at the very least, an average manager for us who's "hands are tied". To say that all you've done is "defend him against daft, unfair criticisms" is being kind like, you've defended him at every corner, even to the point of bringing HBA's pass/touch % Not saying you haven't made good points along the way, or that the opposing argument has always been watertight, but saying "he's a twat" and "Ashley won't get anyone better" every now and then doesn't nullify the fact that you've opposed the vast majority of negative opinions against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Happy Face now denying being one of Pardew's staunchest defenders. Fuck me. I've defended him against daft, unfair criticisms. Like I said though, you won't find any posts where I praise the fucker. You advocated going into the most recent derby, and the one before that, and the one before that with him at the helm because you said he didn't deserve to be sacked. Then you moan when Alan Pardew gets pissed on by them again when anybody with a single ounce of footballing sense knows that is what Alan Pardew does. You'll be back waving his flag next time your stats say you should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-fail-plan-plan-fail/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-fail-plan-plan-fail/ Almost a good article, should have mentioned how the teams that have great starts to the season and are crap after christmas usually carry that form into the new season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manosdepiedra Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-fail-plan-plan-fail/ Almost a good article, should have mentioned how the teams that have great starts to the season and are crap after christmas usually carry that form into the new season "Hull were relegated with only 30 points the season after their narrow escape, while West Brom continue to struggle this term, with even the mid-season appointment of Pepe Mel unable to provide the usual momentum shifting effect that a new manager brings. This is probably not the season for those of a black and white persuasion to panic therefore, that particular joy appears destined to arrive in circa six months time if measures aren’t taken to arrest the current profligacy that casts a dark shadow over the club." We're snookered like...Cabaye gone, Remy and Colo off in the summer. It'll take some sort of bibical miracle for Ashley to adequately replace those 3 in the next window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/newcastle-united-fail-plan-plan-fail/ Almost a good article, should have mentioned how the teams that have great starts to the season and are crap after christmas usually carry that form into the new season "Hull were relegated with only 30 points the season after their narrow escape, while West Brom continue to struggle this term, with even the mid-season appointment of Pepe Mel unable to provide the usual momentum shifting effect that a new manager brings. This is probably not the season for those of a black and white persuasion to panic therefore, that particular joy appears destined to arrive in circa six months time if measures aren’t taken to arrest the current profligacy that casts a dark shadow over the club." We're snookered like...Cabaye gone, Remy and Colo off in the summer. It'll take some sort of bibical miracle for Ashley to adequately replace those 3 in the next window. You know what they are going to say, we will look at the youth set up and promote players from there. Brilliant when none of those are ready or good enough. I can just see Pardew waffling that shit out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Voted YES, although i know removing him wont change much. Its only half of the disease. I do not believe Mike can find anyone good/likeable to do the job. Removing pardew could start something really nasty. Not sure a lot of managers could keep Ashley and mostly themself happy in this setup. It could create chaos imo. Ashley could spend the next years hiring and sacking managers every season coz finding a decent human being and good manager that is willing to swallow his pride and back him 100% could prove difficult... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Come 1.30 on Sunday I will be of the short-sighted opinion that anything other than a Newcastle victory is a disappointment. Wish I could get excited by the prospect of a new manager, but I can't. The fat fucking tapeworm will still be deep inside the club's intestines. 3 points please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 We're snookered like...Cabaye gone, Remy and Colo off in the summer. It'll take some sort of bibical miracle for Ashley to adequately replace those 3 in the next window. Heard this kind of talk before, in the last 3 years. A lot - now we're truly fucked, going down again, etc. Let's see who we bring in. Could well be that we totally fail to reinvest and don't come close to replacing Cabaye et al. Could be that we absolutely nail it and somehow find another couple of gifted players for stupidly low prices. Probably somewhere in between I think. A decent attempt to plug the gap, players of a pretty good calibre such as Cabella but I'd be surprised if we get anyone quite as obviously CL-bound as Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If a loss will make Pardew disappear from my sight every weekend, absolutely I'd want us to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I would fear that any replacement would get sucked into the whole patsy for the regime/mouthpiece/as bad as them stuff fairly quickly unless we also changed our transfer policy at the same time. Think the only thing we could hope for is better football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If a loss will make Pardew disappear from my sight every weekend, absolutely I'd want us to lose. It won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I would fear that any replacement would get sucked into the whole patsy for the regime/mouthpiece/as bad as them stuff fairly quickly unless we also changed our transfer policy at the same time. Think the only thing we could hope for is better football. I'll accept that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Trying to think of managers who'd actually make that happen, with a clear predilection for passing footy, who are available and would want to come. So far I've got: Laudrup maybe but probably not. Granted, I've only been trying for 4 or 5 minutes but who else is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I would fear that any replacement would get sucked into the whole patsy for the regime/mouthpiece/as bad as them stuff fairly quickly unless we also changed our transfer policy at the same time. Think the only thing we could hope for is better football. I'll accept that. Exactly all I'm hoping for, obviously the ultimate goal should be to pan Ashley and all his cronies but the reason I'm vehemently against Pardew is the utter dross we're subjected to which just amplifies everything wrong with the club. Short-termist? Yes, absolutely! But it's a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 until all our players' legs fall off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Debuchy Colo Mbiwa Sissoko Tiote Anita Cabella Santon Gouffran De Jong It'd be something daft like that. Key tactical talking points: everyone doing fucking everything, all the time, as quickly as possible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I don't doubt it for a second Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 If he went to another club he's not going to get players of the quality of Cabaye and Remy to hide his inadequacy. It's not like he's going to be headhunted by Chelsea or Liverpool. The type of club which would hire him would be Palace or West Ham, and he'd have them relegated within a season. that doesn't answer the question for me tbh, no way on earth he remotely thinks like that - he'll believe he's an excellent manager and is being let down by other factors around him, the question posed is a good one imo, the only answer i can think is he's not comfortably rich and won't walk from payoff without a guaranteed job lined up as stated his stock is high, and doesn't seem to be getting any lower, so if you were him why walk when you can eventually be pushed holding a suitcase full of money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Surely 7 losses in a row would do it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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