Guest bimpy474 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Can you be a fan of business ? He has a valid point, Football is a business now, i hate to say it but it is. We do need to be concerned about it, and tbf to Ashley he has done ok with that part. Just my opinion of it. But what we now have is a business and no football club, a club losing it soul and identity, it so skewed the other way it's ridiculous. Frankly it looks like Ashley isn't interested in as a club to win things with, we're just a vehicle for his jumble sale shops. I agree to a point. But I don't accept hiring a proven failure is good business and I'm sure you don't either. Even if we sign 5 players this summer it's pointless if we are not going to have a proper manager to manage them. As I said in the other thread, this is Newcastle United. I totally agree. I know people dislike Pardew for different reason but mine is mainly the standard of the football. Football is a beautiful game, it's meant to be exciting, passing and movement, flair and creativity. Under Pardew we are an ugly team that lacks most of that. Yet Pardew tells us we play good stuff. Utter bullshit and i hate him for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You don't, do you bimps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You don't, do you bimps? Oi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Has tollemache stopped posting now? Was literally banging my head on the canteen table while I was reading this thread earlier on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Has tollemache stopped posting now? Was literally banging my head on the canteen table while I was reading this thread earlier on! Then it's won, that's exactly the sort of reaction it wants. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Touché Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You're like that Japanese bloke who just flat our refused to accept the Second World War was over. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 The reaction it wants is to have a discussion without you lot getting your pitchforks and lanterns out at the slightest hint of anything but unrelenting hatred of Ashley, Pardew and everything they ever do, or anything but grinding pessimism over the club's prospects. That'd be a good reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I agree to a point. But I don't accept hiring a proven failure is good business and I'm sure you don't either. Even if we sign 5 players this summer it's pointless if we are not going to have a proper manager to manage them. As I said in the other thread, this is Newcastle United. this is a good point, i say don't come with the business chelp when ashley isn't even bothering to run the business side with a view to to success....i'm 100% sure everyone here could handle that tbh, because running a football club as a business to succeed would mean that there was at least a modicum of effort to improve matters on the field and progress all sides of the entity as it is the football club is being run on a premier league life support machine to keep it alive but in a permanent vegetative state for use as a vehicle to advertise ashley's shops, i'm not really sure that there's a valid alternative to this opinion is there, is it even arguable at this stage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Byker Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The reaction it wants is to have a discussion without you lot getting your pitchforks and lanterns out at the slightest hint of anything but unrelenting hatred of Ashley, Pardew and everything they ever do, or anything but grinding pessimism over the club's prospects. That'd be a good reaction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 he's watched his old hammer horror films it seems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 127 (17.3% of total) posts just for yesterday. Setting up records like Pardew. 68 posts on day 2. Trollemashley needs to keep up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If I did 127 every day it wouldn't be special Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 You might want to stop hijacking the Pardew and HBA threads for a start. Bring your stuff to the Ashley thread where it's more apt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Of course. Last thing I want to do is derail threads but conversation will wander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Apart from being punishingly dull, taken in isolation a lot of trollemache's points are correct. The main contention being he's forgetting key factors such as progress, ambition and ultimately the paying match day supporter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It's really, really getting on my nerves now: had an all-out argument with the guy who sits in the next cubicle at work, a Liverpool fan. He constantly acts astonished whenever I say anything remotely negative about Pardew (which is every single time footie comes up as a subject, so quite frequently), and this past week he's been doing somersaults and all sorts of mental gymnastics to absolve this fuck of any blame. "It's Ashley, he has no say in transfers, it's the lazy French players he got shoved with, he's had injuries..." the list goes on and on. What's really impressive is that he's the SECOND person I know who supports another club (another one of my mates is a Chelsea fan who does the same thing) who vehemently goes out of their way to defend Pardew. It's mindboggling. The neutral fan fucking loves this guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It's really, really getting on my nerves now: had an all-out argument with the guy who sits in the next cubicle at work, a Liverpool fan. He constantly acts astonished whenever I say anything remotely negative about Pardew (which is every single time footie comes up as a subject, so quite frequently), and this past week he's been doing somersaults and all sorts of mental gymnastics to absolve this fuck of any blame. "It's Ashley, he has no say in transfers, it's the lazy French players he got shoved with, he's had injuries..." the list goes on and on. What's really impressive is that he's the SECOND person I know who supports another club (another one of my mates is a Chelsea fan who does the same thing) who vehemently goes out of their way to defend Pardew. It's mindboggling. The neutral fan fucking loves this guy maybe 'cause he's about the only ingerlish manager floating about the top half of the league? can think of no other reason for fans of other clubs to like him, except i suppose he's always a good bet for letting your team plough 5 or 6 goals past us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I watched a bit of Sunday Supplement and it was clear, as before, that Pardew's reputation is much higher outside the North East. The general verdict is that he's doing well in a difficult situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I watched a bit of Sunday Supplement and it was clear, as before, that Pardew's reputation is much higher outside the North East. The general verdict is that he's doing well in a difficult situation. yep agree. Most, if not all of the phone ins I have heard recycle this same tosh. Im sure it was Paddy Barclay (sp) on talkshite the other day spouting the 'no one else could do as well as he has' line. Followed by the 'his hands are tied by MA'.... Ignoring the fact that he is complicit with and an utterly willing bondage victim of the fat ones. Not sure why his stock is so high darn sarf?? Beggars beleif that journos cant see anyone else doing better than he has though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It's just the kind of easy regurgitated shite you expect from the press really. Up there with 'those bloody gutless foreigners'. They can just blame it all on Ashley without bothering to watch our matches. Except the times we play their beloved top 6/7 who of course were in 'formiddable' form, rather than Pardew bottling the game with his tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Football journalism on that sort of scale is more or less completely worthless. There's far too many complexities within individual clubs for some dickheads from London who watched MOTD and whose careers depend upon perpetuating a culture of four or five mega clubs with everyone else making up the numbers and to be grateful to be allowed to play on the same grass as a grand famous club like Manchester City, to be able or willing to offer any sort of worthwhile opinion. Don't let yourself be wound up or influenced by it, just turn it off and don't read it. Sunday Supplement ffs. Why would you waste a single second of your life watching that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Day 3? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I watched a bit of Sunday Supplement and it was clear, as before, that Pardew's reputation is much higher outside the North East. The general verdict is that he's doing well in a difficult situation. yep agree. Most, if not all of the phone ins I have heard recycle this same tosh. Im sure it was Paddy Barclay (sp) on talkshite the other day spouting the 'no one else could do as well as he has' line. Followed by the 'his hands are tied by MA'.... Ignoring the fact that he is complicit with and an utterly willing bondage victim of the fat ones. Not sure why his stock is so high darn sarf?? Beggars beleif that journos cant see anyone else doing better than he has though... The National media and fans of other PL clubs are happy with the set up at SJP because they know that we pose no threat to the 'established order' of the PL. The media have little interest in a successful NUFC because it would mean they had to spend more time away from their cosy metropolitan and mancunian bolt holes. The fans of clubs like Liverpool are happy because once again, they can be confident of humiliating us almost every time we play them and a comfortable 3 points beckon. Some of them will KNOW Pardew is a toss pot if they have looked at his past record but it suits them for him to remain our manager and keep us from fulfilling anything like our potential...or that of the players, most of whom have declined since coming under his management. Nobody is going to care about NUFC except the fans of the club and they are the ones who matter. I don't give a toss what smug scribblers like Barclay say on a pathetic radio show, or what other teams' fans think. They can all get stuffed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 “But he’s a huge man - he’s 6’5” at times for us - and he’s going to need to get a bit bigger.” honestly, what the fuck does he think he's saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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