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Called carver a limp wristed  liberal c***, invited the press room to "come and have a go if you think you've got the stones" then spunked all over the first row. Was mad tbh

 

Every manager does that though.

 

 

 

Pardew lover!

 

Nobody says it quite like Alan.

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/mar/13/alan-pardew-counsellor-david-meyler-headbutt

Alan Pardew enlists help of counsellor after David Meyler head-butt

• Newcastle manager promises not to violate FA ban

• 'Going on the team bus to Fulham wouldn't go down well'

 

    Louise Taylor

    The Guardian, Thursday 13 March 2014 22.00 GMT

 

 

Alan Pardew briefly considered travelling to Fulham on Newcastle United's team coach on Saturday afternoon before swiftly concluding it might not be the most diplomatic of moves.

 

"I'm not boarding the bus," said Pardew speaking for the first time since receiving a record seven-game FA ban for head-butting Hull's David Meyler during a game at the KC Stadium earlier this month. "I did think about going on the bus and having a hot dog outside Craven Cottage but I don't think that's going to go down too well so I'll say goodbye at the hotel."

 

With the Newcastle manager's punishment divided into a three-game stadium ban followed by four matches which will see him merely barred from the touchline, the coming weeks represent uncharted territory for Pardew who cut a contrite figure during his weekly media briefing.

 

"I was disappointed in myself," he acknowledged. "I'm an experienced manager and I shouldn't have got into that situation. It's something that can't happen again."

 

In an effort to avoid any repetition the 52-year-old will hire a personal management counsellor. "I've spoken to a few company CEOs who have management counselling and I think it's an avenue that might work for me," said Pardew. "Richard Bevan [the chief executive of the League Managers Association] has been a great help in terms of finding someone to work for me and I can just bounce ideas off. Not necessarily just about the touchline and the pressures I'm under, just normal managerial decisions.

 

"The big question for me when this incident happened was 'how am I going to be a better manager out of it?' I don't want to be a worse manager, I don't want to lose my drive and passion but I'm going to channel it a little bit better.

 

"I think the consultant will be someone from outside the game with a different perspective, someone with a business background. If you were a top CEO in the city you'd have one, the company would make sure you did. Given the position I'm in, I'm probably as important as them."

 

Pardew has been buoyed by staunch loyalty from assorted quarters including that inhabited by Newcastle's owner Mike Ashley. "I had lots of messages of support, not that I deserved sympathy, from colleagues in the game and from friends and family," said Pardew. "No matter what mistake you make in life, that's important.

 

"I just want to reiterate my apologies to David [Meyler] and Steve [bruce, Hull's manager]. And to Newcastle fans, who've been terrific, and the club and Mike in supporting me after a situation I should never have got involved in and which was stupid.

 

"I've sent a letter to offer my side to David and say sorry for the incident. I deeply regret it. At the time I didn't think it was as bad as it appeared on television – I must have watched it 2,000 times now. But the bottom line is I should never have walked forward and got involved when he pushed me."

 

He concedes he was relieved to merely receive a £100,000 club fine rather than be sacked. "Of course it was a relief when you've made a mistake in front of millions of people," said Pardew. "You have to pay a price and there was a hefty price for me but the backing I've had from Mike and the club has been a really big help."

 

Further bolstering has come from Newcastle's dressing room. "A few of the players told me they thought some of the press reaction was over the top. They were funny about it, there was a bit of gallows humour," said Pardew. "I had a pair of boxing gloves put in my changing room. That's how players cope with these things, we'd all go mad otherwise – but I know it's not a laughing matter."

 

Although Pardew has not been informed that he cannot communicate with his assistant, John Carver, via mobile phone during matches while serving the stadium ban, he is unlikely to try.

 

"I'm going to think about it," said Newcastle's manager who will watch the match in Newcastle's hotel where he will deliver an early team talk before handing over to the highly rated, implicitly trusted, Carver.

 

"But interfering from the outside, I'm not sure that's the right thing to do. I'll watch the game with a video analyst and give the team my reflections on Tuesday. Maybe this will be a period of redemption for me."

 

Er... :lol:

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I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no?

 

He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too.

 

Just how much of a debt has he racked up for Asley to 'have something over' him and force him to do his bidding?

 

SanToon suggests 'several thousand pounds', but considering he's flush enough to drop £160,000 in a week just to get to nuzzle a Tiger, I suspect you might think it's more than that. :dontknow:

 

How do you know that he is paying from his own pocket..? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Ashley was paying these fines by giving Pardew a 'bonus'....esp likely in the case of the 60,000.

 

Mike 'splash the cash' Ashley dipping into his own pocket? I can't see it.

 

How much would it cost him if he had to get rid of Pardew and hire a decent manager..?

 

The same as it would for your boss to sack you for gross misconduct.

 

No idea what Merlin's employment contract is worth but Pardew's has to be worth somewhere between 6 and 10 million pounds. Sack him for gross misconduct and he'd have top employment legal teams queuing up to represent him. And at that point it becomes a bit of a lottery. 

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Did he say he's 'going to think about' contacting Carver by phone?  Hey Al, if you're gonna break the conditions of your stadium ban best not tell everyone about it, eh?

 

He is clearly as important as a top CEO in the city though.  All those billion dollar hedge fund managers and FTSE 100 CEOs never stop pushing each other with their heads.

 

The bloke is fucking deluded.  Suits us down to the ground, just a shame it wasn't a horse he nutted.

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I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no?

 

He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too.

 

Just how much of a debt has he racked up for Asley to 'have something over' him and force him to do his bidding?

 

SanToon suggests 'several thousand pounds', but considering he's flush enough to drop £160,000 in a week just to get to nuzzle a Tiger, I suspect you might think it's more than that. :dontknow:

 

How do you know that he is paying from his own pocket..? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Ashley was paying these fines by giving Pardew a 'bonus'....esp likely in the case of the 60,000.

 

Mike 'splash the cash' Ashley dipping into his own pocket? I can't see it.

 

How much would it cost him if he had to get rid of Pardew and hire a decent manager..?

 

The same as it would for your boss to sack you for gross misconduct.

 

No idea what Merlin's employment contract is worth but Pardew's has to be worth somewhere between 6 and 10 million pounds. Sack him for gross misconduct and he'd have top employment legal teams queuing up to represent him. And at that point it becomes a bit of a lottery.

 

He head butted someone. In public. While at work. On TV. It'd be pretty much an open and shut case.

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I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no?

 

He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too.

 

Just how much of a debt has he racked up for Asley to 'have something over' him and force him to do his bidding?

 

SanToon suggests 'several thousand pounds', but considering he's flush enough to drop £160,000 in a week just to get to nuzzle a Tiger, I suspect you might think it's more than that. :dontknow:

 

How do you know that he is paying from his own pocket..? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Ashley was paying these fines by giving Pardew a 'bonus'....esp likely in the case of the 60,000.

 

Mike 'splash the cash' Ashley dipping into his own pocket? I can't see it.

 

How much would it cost him if he had to get rid of Pardew and hire a decent manager..?

 

The same as it would for your boss to sack you for gross misconduct.

 

No idea what Merlin's employment contract is worth but Pardew's has to be worth somewhere between 6 and 10 million pounds. Sack him for gross misconduct and he'd have top employment legal teams queuing up to represent him. And at that point it becomes a bit of a lottery.

 

He head butted someone. In public. While at work. On TV. It'd be pretty much an open and shut case.

 

You'd think. But, if you can afford them, there are specialist lawyers around who will muddy the waters and present a credible case in any given situation. The papers are full of cases where wealthy guilty people are able to win cases they shouldn't, anything from murderers to drunk drivers. There's no such thing as an open and shut case if you can afford to defend it. The other thing, of course, is that high profile employment cases result in the employer's dirty linen being washed in public and stuff comes out that they would rather hadn't. This was what happened with Keegan's case and whilst we don't know much about Ashley he does seem obsessed with privacy these days, so he'd probably settle the case out of court rather than go through all that again. Anyway it is a hypothetical discussion as he hasn't attempted to sack him...... 

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So this guy has hired a consultant to help him not headbutt people. So not only has he not been fired, he's being allowed to spend money on himself, and feed his pathetic ego, because he believes he is as important as CEOs are, and therefore warrants a personal consultant.

 

Can't he just crawl into a hole and shut up until his ban is over. The guy is absolutely shameless, and despicable. How can he not see that coming out and talking about his personal CEO consultant that he has acquired after headbutting someone, is fucking irritating and annoying.

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I don't think it's the main reason he keeps him, but it's not beyond comprehension that it's also a factor, easier to get manager to spin your bullshit for you if you have something over them no?

 

He's doing a sterling job as a bang average manager that's never goin to tear up any trees and dampen expectations to keep supporters in line, that's a main reason to keep him but I believe the debts have some credence too.

 

Just how much of a debt has he racked up for Asley to 'have something over' him and force him to do his bidding?

 

SanToon suggests 'several thousand pounds', but considering he's flush enough to drop £160,000 in a week just to get to nuzzle a Tiger, I suspect you might think it's more than that. :dontknow:

 

How do you know that he is paying from his own pocket..? Wouldn't be at all surprised if Ashley was paying these fines by giving Pardew a 'bonus'....esp likely in the case of the 60,000.

 

Mike 'splash the cash' Ashley dipping into his own pocket? I can't see it.

 

How much would it cost him if he had to get rid of Pardew and hire a decent manager..?

 

The same as it would for your boss to sack you for gross misconduct.

 

No idea what Merlin's employment contract is worth but Pardew's has to be worth somewhere between 6 and 10 million pounds. Sack him for gross misconduct and he'd have top employment legal teams queuing up to represent him. And at that point it becomes a bit of a lottery. 

 

Ashley could easily have sacked him then took a chance on having to pay the compensation. If he really thought he was an incompetent manager he would have paid £6m just to be shot of him. My view is he knows he's a shite manager but as long as we buy enough quality players to keep us mid-table it doesn't really matter who is in charge as long as they are prepared to lick Ashley's rim.

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It is highly unlikely but, if NUFC were the only team to win all our games during Pardew's ban who would get the "manager of month" award?

 

The manager who won one fewer.

Carver you would have to think.
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