Flip Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 This guy has been learning his lessons, we will never be entertaining under him but we are certainly playing better than I expected after the dross we've been presented with since he arrived at the club. (even the season we finished 5th I was never convinced of his abilities). The fact that we continually tried to play the ball on the deck from Krul today shows that he is at least giving that non-hoof a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2530621/In-praise-Pardew-Newcastle-boss-overachieved-against-odds-praising-Englands-coaches.html Article makes some good points in my opinion. Aye it was always proper "baffling" that Chelsea never gave Curbishley a job. Still can't believe it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Me too. Which is why I'm surprised at the reaction to his comments. His comments were "for a club of our size and financial ability to have 36 points before January" and that's bullshit. How? Because we're not a small club, and the financial thing is soley down to the f***ing jumble sale merchant who owns us, maybe ? Or maybe not, more down to the self fulfilling prophecy that is the champions league and the rich getting richer etc etc It's a good season so far, credit to the manager and players, why can't some just enjoy it. f*** me we dealt with Arsenal very well and were worthy of at least a point, years gone by they've annihilated us. We are enjoying it, unlike some today i thought we played ok, it's just i'm not one for liking our manager saying we are a small club, that ok ? But he didn't He said a club of our size. Surely we know why aren't an arsenal, man united or man city? As you said, it's how you interpret it, i saw it as him saying we are a small club. Maybe he could have said 'lets win for Mike' again, maybe that'll make you happy, i dont know. Constant talk from him doing us down and some still think it's a resonable thing to say and do..........Ashley has done a good job on you, fair play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2530621/In-praise-Pardew-Newcastle-boss-overachieved-against-odds-praising-Englands-coaches.html points on pardew are fair enough really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 But he didn't He said a club of our size. Surely we know why aren't an arsenal, man united or man city? What is a club of our size? Where do you think we sit in the Premiership on size? I'm interested in where you think we should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 points on pardew are fair enough really We haven't over achieved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Me too. Which is why I'm surprised at the reaction to his comments. His comments were "for a club of our size and financial ability to have 36 points before January" and that's bullshit. How? Because we're not a small club, and the financial thing is soley down to the f***ing jumble sale merchant who owns us, maybe ? Or maybe not, more down to the self fulfilling prophecy that is the champions league and the rich getting richer etc etc It's a good season so far, credit to the manager and players, why can't some just enjoy it. Fuck me we dealt with Arsenal very well and were worthy of at least a point, years gone by they've annihilated us. We are enjoying it, unlike some today i thought we played ok, it's just i'm not one for liking our manager saying we are a small club, that ok ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Me too. Which is why I'm surprised at the reaction to his comments. His comments were "for a club of our size and financial ability to have 36 points before January" and that's bullshit. How? Because we're not a small club, and the financial thing is soley down to the f***ing jumble sale merchant who owns us, maybe ? Or maybe not, more down to the self fulfilling prophecy that is the champions league and the rich getting richer etc etc It's a good season so far, credit to the manager and players, why can't some just enjoy it. f*** me we dealt with Arsenal very well and were worthy of at least a point, years gone by they've annihilated us. We are enjoying it, unlike some today i thought we played ok, it's just i'm not one for liking our manager saying we are a small club, that ok ? But he didn't He said a club of our size. Surely we know why aren't an arsenal, man united or man city? As you said, it's how you interpret it, i saw it as him saying we are a small club. Maybe he could have said 'lets win for Mike' again, maybe that'll make you happy, i dont know. Constant talk from him doing us down and some still think it's a resonable thing to say and do..........Ashley has done a good job on you, fair play. People can think for themselves. As thing stand we aren't a 'big club' and haven't been for a long time. Pardew is right saying without resources we are doing very well. You should stop taking things so personally. Maybe one day the potential will be fulfilled, right now, this is what we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So when Ashley took over we were, 18th-20th or so highest revenue income brought in clubs in the world. Sorry but we are a big club, Ashley may have done a good job to ruin that but we are a massive club. To swallow the bullshit, well i pity those that do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 But he didn't He said a club of our size. Surely we know why aren't an arsenal, man united or man city? What is a club of our size? Where do you think we sit in the Premiership on size? I'm interested in where you think we should be. With this owner? This is as good as it gets. Maybe a good cup run. With a man city style owner, as big as anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 points on pardew are fair enough really We haven't over achieved. these points might say otherwise Pardew, let us not forget, is working under a Director of Football whose every public appearance brings the risk of an international incident and an owner that has contrived to make an awful lot of enemies in one of this countries’ friendliest cities. More to the point, Newcastle began this season in disarray, with a summer of discontent that carried whispers of Pardew’s possible exit and star player Yohan Cabaye on strike in the opening weeks. Pardew did not have access to a budget in excess of £25 million as Pochettino did in the summer (there was only the loan signing of Loic Remy), nor does he benefit from a prolific youth system established long before his arrival, as Pochettino has done at Southampton. The most notable graduates from the Newcastle academy in recent years have been Andy Carroll, Steven Taylor and the Ameobi brothers. The Class of ‘92 it is not. Peering in from the outside, Newcastle do not appear structurally sound, careering from one PR disaster to another and if it were not for the firefighting and acumen of Pardew and Carr in these last few years, Newcastle could quite feasibly have staggered along that Leeds United treadmill to oblivion. I find it hard to disagree with any of those points considering what a circus the club is off the field Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So when Ashley took over we were, 18th-20th or so highest revenue income brought in clubs in the world. Sorry but we are a big club, Ashley may have done a good job to ruin that but we are a massive club. To swallow the bullshit, well i pity those that do. Potentially bimpy, not right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 With this owner? This is as good as it gets. Maybe a good cup run. With a man city style owner, as big as anyone. That's avoiding the question, where do you think we currently are size wise compared to the other clubs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 I saw that interview today and think it was Pardew being a wum, had a wry smile when saying it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So when Ashley took over we were, 18th-20th or so highest revenue income brought in clubs in the world. Sorry but we are a big club, Ashley may have done a good job to ruin that but we are a massive club. To swallow the bullshit, well i pity those that do. Potentially bimpy, not right now. I do agree actually, but because owner doesn't think or want us to be big doesn't change what we are at our core. Wont be a day to soon when he fucks off, just a cancer eating away at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Overachieved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew's "we're a tiny club" spiel is obviously rubbing off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 With this owner? This is as good as it gets. Maybe a good cup run. With a man city style owner, as big as anyone. That's avoiding the question, where do you think we currently are size wise compared to the other clubs? I didn't, I said this is as good as its gets. We are potentially a mammoth club with the right owners. Right now, we are a just an average sized club with a great support. Not sure what else I can add. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So when Ashley took over we were, 18th-20th or so highest revenue income brought in clubs in the world. Sorry but we are a big club, Ashley may have done a good job to ruin that but we are a massive club. To swallow the bullshit, well i pity those that do. in theory we are, in reality we're a club where no kids come through where the circus has threatened to overshadow everything consistently for longer than ashleys been here. Off the field the club is a shambles and has been a shambles long before ashley came along and the times when things have been good have been down to the hard work and overall ability of Keegan and Robson rather than to any structural superiority that Man Utd for example possess over everyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2530621/In-praise-Pardew-Newcastle-boss-overachieved-against-odds-praising-Englands-coaches.html Article makes some good points in my opinion. It's fucking awful man, going on about he supposedly deserves better than us. Plus the Curbishley shite Wullie mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew's "we're a tiny club" spiel is obviously rubbing off. Jesus. Did everyone think we were a massive club before pardew strolled in like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 So when Ashley took over we were, 18th-20th or so highest revenue income brought in clubs in the world. Sorry but we are a big club, Ashley may have done a good job to ruin that but we are a massive club. To swallow the bullshit, well i pity those that do. in theory we are, in reality we're a club where no kids come through where the circus has threatened to overshadow everything consistently for longer than ashleys been here. Off the field the club is a shambles and has been a shambles long before ashley came along and the times when things have been good have been down to the hard work and overall ability of Keegan and Robson rather than to any structural superiority that Man Utd for example possess over everyone. Sadly this is very true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 This is only "as good as it gets" because we're that fucking done in from last year that our decent foray into the top 8 over the past couple of months seems like some monumental achievement and not just something that should be expected with this squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew's "we're a tiny club" spiel is obviously rubbing off. "But we're 5th!" has become "but we're 8th!" So far I've enjoyed this season more than I did that one fwiw like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Pardew's "we're a tiny club" spiel is obviously rubbing off. Jesus. Did everyone think we were a massive club before pardew strolled in like? Baffled as to where you got "Everyone thought we were a massive club" from "Pardew's 'we're a tiny club' spiel is obviously rubbing off" mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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