HawK Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I still can't bring myself to believe that Ashley employed Pardew purely because of a gambling debt even though the story won't go away. Very much doubt it's the sole reason, but it's certainly a good way to get the manager to sign whatever you want - Ashley pays the debt off, Pardew pays back Ashley with a low-basic contract. If the manager makes you money (positions, transfers), then performance related gains make sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I still can't bring myself to believe that Ashley employed Pardew purely because of a gambling debt even though the story won't go away. Very much doubt it's the sole reason, but it's certainly a good way to get the manager to sign whatever you want - Ashley pays the debt off, Pardew pays back Ashley with a low-basic contract. If the manager makes you money (positions, transfers), then performance related gains make sense. Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I still can't bring myself to believe that Ashley employed Pardew purely because of a gambling debt even though the story won't go away. Very much doubt it's the sole reason, but it's certainly a good way to get the manager to sign whatever you want - Ashley pays the debt off, Pardew pays back Ashley with a low-basic contract. If the manager makes you money (positions, transfers), then performance related gains make sense. To get the Newcastle job, Pardew would have signed whatever you wanted anyway man. No (bullshit) debts required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I still can't bring myself to believe that Ashley employed Pardew purely because of a gambling debt even though the story won't go away. Very much doubt it's the sole reason, but it's certainly a good way to get the manager to sign whatever you want - Ashley pays the debt off, Pardew pays back Ashley with a low-basic contract. If the manager makes you money (positions, transfers), then performance related gains make sense. Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) You could argue the way he does business, his whole empire has been built on the back of being a gambler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I still can't bring myself to believe that Ashley employed Pardew purely because of a gambling debt even though the story won't go away. Very much doubt it's the sole reason, but it's certainly a good way to get the manager to sign whatever you want - Ashley pays the debt off, Pardew pays back Ashley with a low-basic contract. If the manager makes you money (positions, transfers), then performance related gains make sense. Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) You could argue the way he does business, his whole empire has been built on the back of being a gambler. Which adds more fuel to the fire that he 'hates' Newcastle. What better way to gamble than by investing in a football team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) That's how he knew Llambias, through Del's time running the Fifty casino in Mayfair. Les Ambassadeurs is Mike's current venue of choice, often alongside fellow retail billionaire Philip Green. There are various reports of him blowing or winning huge amounts in one session. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) That's how he knew Llambias, through Del's time running the Fifty casino in Mayfair. Les Ambassadeurs is Mike's current venue of choice, often alongside fellow retail billionaire Philip Green. There are various reports of him blowing or winning huge amounts in one session. So the chances of Pardew owing Ashley money is far more unlikely than Pardew owing Llambias like most stories said. Fwiw i knew he was regularly gambling but you confirmed my thought that he wasnt directly involved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 story still doesn't make sense really, tell pardew to get a job elsewhere and pay off his debts while using a real manager to manage his multi-million pound asset llamblias and pardew friends from the casino's, pardew uses his influence to get dekka to grease him into the job...it'll be no more or less than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 story still doesn't make sense really, tell pardew to get a job elsewhere and pay off his debts while using a real manager to manage his multi-million pound asset llamblias and pardew friends from the casino's, pardew uses his influence to get dekka to grease him into the job...it'll be no more or less than that Basically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Obvs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Glass Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Apart from in football where he prefers to make as many peoples lives as misery as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 There are plenty of real sticks to beat Pardew with. We don't have to use a lazy made up story about gambling debts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It's not gambling debts ffs. They swallowed his bullshit that he was better than Hughton and could control the changing room. He probably agreed to get rid of Nolan, Smith Harper and Barton as part of getting the job. Gets the job, does well the first season as he's done in most jobs, thicko's in the football sense Llambias and Ashley fell hook line and sinker after we finished 5th, boom 8 year contract. Now as it's started to all fall apart with 2 seasons of shit football with the odd good game, he's blaming the Europa games or the players, or players he doesn't have. Maybe just maybe Ashley is beginning to see him for what he actually is. A shit manager who shouldn't be anywhere near a job this big. Anyone with half a football brain can see how limited this bloke is, our style (lack of it), tactics, set penises, team selections, defensive set up that is so bad we concede ridiculous amounts of daft goals. Not even going to mention the mentalness of his bullshit in press conferences and in the media. Debts my arse, his bullshit worked and now it's all coming apart at the seams. Just like any liar, the lies catch up in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Liking a flutter or two isnt being 'involved in gambling' Nigh on everyone likes a bet tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 These things never work. About 500 people will walk out. Nobody will really notice. While being booed by the 'true' fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm always pessimistic about stuff like this, but I so badly want it to go well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It's not gambling debts ffs. They swallowed his bullshit that he was better than Hughton and could control the changing room. He probably agreed to get rid of Nolan, Smith Harper and Barton as part of getting the job. Gets the job, does well the first season as he's done in most jobs, thicko's in the football sense Llambias and Ashley fell hook line and sinker after we finished 5th, boom 8 year contract. Now as it's started to all fall apart with 2 seasons of s*** football with the odd good game, he's blaming the Europa games or the players, or players he doesn't have. Maybe just maybe Ashley is beginning to see him for what he actually is. A s*** manager who shouldn't be anywhere near a job this big. Anyone with half a football brain can see how limited this bloke is, our style (lack of it), tactics, set penises, team selections, defensive set up that is so bad we concede ridiculous amounts of daft goals. Not even going to mention the mentalness of his bullshit in press conferences and in the media. Debts my arse, his bullshit worked and now it's all coming apart at the seams. Just like any liar, the lies catch up in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Liking a flutter or two isnt being 'involved in gambling' Nigh on everyone likes a bet tbh. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1926636/Newcastle-boss-Mike-Ashley-wins-1.3m-on-roulette-spin.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I'm always pessimistic about stuff like this, but I so badly want it to go well. i'd say it's getting enough traction that if we're losing it might go "well" tbh, if everyone is sitting knowing they've got another 30 minutes of shit to look forward to and some start getting up and walking i think some on the fence types would follow need to be losing, preferably 0-2 at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Liking a flutter or two isnt being 'involved in gambling' Nigh on everyone likes a bet tbh. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1926636/Newcastle-boss-Mike-Ashley-wins-1.3m-on-roulette-spin.html partridge.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Liking a flutter or two isnt being 'involved in gambling' Nigh on everyone likes a bet tbh. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1926636/Newcastle-boss-Mike-Ashley-wins-1.3m-on-roulette-spin.html Should play it Russian-style with Roman Abramovich next time round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Has Ashley ever been involved in gambling?(no nufc jokes needed ) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1059237/Newcastle-United-tycoon-Mike-Ashley-lost-300m-HBOS-bet.html From 2008, and the daily mail (I know) but the headline alone shows that, yeah, Mikey likes a flutter or two. Liking a flutter or two isnt being 'involved in gambling' Nigh on everyone likes a bet tbh. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/1926636/Newcastle-boss-Mike-Ashley-wins-1.3m-on-roulette-spin.html partridge.gif Oh you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Fraud, Cunt!!! Just needed to vent. He must be a descendent of the snake in the "Garden of Eve" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes · 42m Pardew presser: "I wasn't set any targets for this season - the only targets we set for ourselves." #Nufc George Caulkin @CaulkinTheTimes · 41m Lee Charnley said on his promotion last month: "our minimum target for this campaign is a top-10 finish." #Nufc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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