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Sibierski

Sibierski

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Can’t he just coach a side that looks like this out of possession and in possession, if he’s some top coach?

 

Out of possession: 4-5-1

 

Dalot, Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez

Fernandes, Mainoo, Casemiro, Ugarte, Garnacho

Hojlund

 

In Possesion: 3-5-2

 

Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez

Dalot, Mainoo, Casemiro, Ugarte, Garnacho

Fernandes, Hojlund

 

Needs 3 in the middle and that’s something he has to change in his ‘philosophy’ whilst still having 3 at the back, if he’s going to last. 

 

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Geordie Ahmed

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5 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

It’s been said loads, but Man Utd are way off. Amorim must have seen some of Man Utd under ETH, where Case / Eriksen just don’t work. Even just any 2 CMs won’t work, but here we are, persisting with a 3-4-3 as it’s his only idea that’s centred on just 2 CMs.

 

It’s never going to work consistently in the Prem. Going to be out run. Three CBs, still weak defensively. Best attackers are Rashford and Garnacho. Both being sidelined because of training stuff (apparently only had 4 full training sessions, so nuts to discard them based on that). 
 

I’m 100% confident that if they lose next two games, Ratcliffe will sack him. Because his excuses only going to get weirder and more tiresome. 

There is a high likelihood they lose their next 2 games (Liverpool in the League and Arsenal in the FA Cup) but fortunately for him/them they have Southampton at home after that, as bad as Man U are they'll beat Southampton

 

 

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Froggy

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8 minutes ago, madras said:

Strange thing for a manager to say. I can understand, just about, his sticking to a certain system if he thinks that once they get it it'll work, but "......my idea, I don't have another one" ?

 

I'm very wary of managers who have to be that rigid. I can buy into managers who want to be more passing based or more route one, high press or low block but we have to play this formation regardless of the personnel seems an admittance of lack of ability to get the best out if a squad.

 

It's out of context from what he said.

 

He said he would adapt to win games, but he wouldn't stop trying to sell his idea to the players because once a coach stops believing in their idea and changing because of results it's the end of them. He said he was hired for this and that's how he'll play.

 

Laurie Dickwell just writing headlines for clicks.

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Froggy

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6 minutes ago, Sibierski said:

Can’t he just coach a side that looks like this out of possession and in possession, if he’s some top coach?

 

Out of possession: 4-5-1

 

Dalot, Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez

Fernandes, Mainoo, Casemiro, Ugarte, Garnacho

Hojlund

 

In Possesion: 3-5-2

 

Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez

Dalot, Mainoo, Casemiro, Ugarte, Garnacho

Fernandes, Hojlund

 

Needs 3 in the middle and that’s something he has to change in his ‘philosophy’ whilst still having 3 at the back, if he’s going to last. 

 

 

He does. He plays a 6-3-1 out of possession. 

 

He addressed this as well. How he also plays 4-4-2 in some transitions.

 

He's not an idiot. :lol:  It's just going to take some time.

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Tiresias

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Just now, Froggy said:

 

It's out of context from what he said.

 

He said he would adapt to win games, but he wouldn't stop trying to sell his idea to the players because once a coach stops believing in their idea and changing because of results it's the end of them. He said he was hired for this and that's how he'll play.

 

Laurie Dickwell just writing headlines for clicks.

 

Yeah that's entirely reasonable, i do question the speed of the transition to 3 at the back though but I do agree with you in that Amorim deserves time and has been hamstrung by what is available. 

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El Prontonise

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2 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

He does. He plays a 6-3-1 out of possession. 

 

He addressed this as well. How he also plays 4-4-2 in some transitions.

 

He's not an idiot. :lol:  It's just going to take some time.

 

Maybe Ineos can save some money and hire some internet football coaches.

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Hanshithispantz

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Starting Zirkzee and then subbing him after 30 minutes was fucking horrific :lol:

 

Say what you want about the system, but it was obvious to anyone Mainoo needed to be in midfield as Eriksen and Casemiro were going to get steamrolled off any fast and physical side. 

 

You just cannot perform in the Prem nowadays without physicality in the middle, that's not Zirkzee's fault.

 

 

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Cronky

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When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

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andycap

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I'd play

                         Onana

      Yoro.        Maguire.         Martinez

Dalot  ugarte  Mainoo bruno garnach

                        Zirkzee

                        Hoijlund

 

 

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Nucasol

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4 minutes ago, Cronky said:

When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

 

Saw someone describe Amorim as the Matalan Mourinho. 

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kingxlnc

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16 minutes ago, Cronky said:

When a club slips down after a long period of success, it's difficult to recover. I saw that with Man U after Busby's departure, and with Liverpool during the 20 or so years before Klopp. There's a huge pressure to be successful again, and patience is in short supply. It's almost like the club tries too hard. Man U post-Fergie are going through the same thing.

 

Rumour has it that Amorim was looked at by other Premiership clubs, who then decided against, for whatever reason, and of course Ashworth was a doubter. It feels like Ratcliffe decided that this guy was a genius who could do something exceptional. The whole decision has impatience at its root, and they're paying the price.

 

 

 

Yes Liverpool and West Ham both decided against

With West Ham's choice of managers, hardly a ringing endorsement

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Rod

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8 minutes ago, Menace said:

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

I've always thought the same.

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Checko

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17 minutes ago, Menace said:

All jokes aside I reckon Howe would get something out of Rashford - not that I want him here. Look at what he's done with Murphy/Gordon

Or he'd Ryan Fraser him out of existence. Though harder to do when a player's on 300k plus per week.

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